[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

I was in target and they had no motor trend.. Called Barnes and Noble and they said that December issue would be out in early November for them.

It exists right meow.

Pics in the other thread.

Think someone also said they seen it at an airport...

[MTCobra]

Originally Posted by huggercamaro21

Number 3 likes to complain about the visibility a lot! If you adjust your mirrors and just get used to it, the 5th gen is not bad. Is it a mid size sedan? No haha.

I can't understand how anyone who wants a performance car can complain about the visibility. I had the developer of the GT350 give me grief for the visibility out the back of my ZL1 at TWS at a Mustang Weekend Track event. I told him if you're fast enough you don't need to be looking in your rear view.


The visibility in a Jaguar F type is the same...I'm sure other performance cars are the same too. I could care less about rear visibility.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by TheSpectre

I can't count the number of times reading his posts has tempted me to create an account over there just to put him in his place, but then the fevers pass and I return to normal. He's just not worth it, but I'm glad to see so many non-Camaro "trolls" over there are also now refusing to take his medicine.

Here is what is kind of sad in a way lol. There are more posts at this time (by like 100 +) on their Camaro Reviews thread, than there are on this site for our thread.

Is that sad for us, or sad for them??????????? lol

[i2disturbedSS]

Originally Posted by DannyB

Why do you assholes have to keep dragging ThePill into every damn thread on this board? It is getting ridiculous!!!

You want to play with him, go do it on his turf. Be glad i don't run this board or you would all be banned. None of you can stay on topic and even though you are putting him down, you are still riding his nuts and in his mind he wins and will continue his ways. Just ignore the fool and move the **** on!!! Maybe the mods can set you guys up a "ThePill Fan Club" board so y'all quit cluttering up every legitimate thread on here with shit about him.

Call it entertainment. I don't have a profile over there but I still read/lurk other car forums and that includes the main competition. I see others do and I get a good laugh or a sense of Camaro love when they are over on the "other" side. They do give balance just like ones over here. The Pill just comes up every now and then cuz its like a inside joke on the forums.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Some exotics etc have absolutely no rear visibility. None.

I agree the rear visibility when looking to change lanes was sub par. Some claim it's only a problem if you are short... But I'm about 6ft so I don't know about that. I've never been called short before lol. I don't see how being above 6'2 would help at all...

Other than that I'm glad they lowered the dash line and the car is a lot lighter and faster. More responsive. Should be a lot more fun to drive than previous SS.

[laborsmith]

Not sad for either as I see it.

Laborsmith

[Zack46]

Look, for people who hate the visibility either get used to it (by adjusting mirrors correctly and learn to live with it) OR just don't buy the car AND continue being happy driving your Toyota.

Now, If you want a really cool looking, sinister looking and down right in your face attitude CAR, there has to be a trade-off or 2 (two).

Know what I mean?

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

Not sad for either as I see it.

Laborsmith

It was a joke.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by huggercamaro21

Number 3 likes to complain about the visibility a lot! If you adjust your mirrors and just get used to it, the 5th gen is not bad. Is it a mid size sedan? No haha.

I complain cuz it's bad and could have been improved. Choices were made.

Some of you guys seem like you actually wanted poor visibility and are happy it got worse or at best didn't improve.

And yes you can get used to it. I've had enough seat time to know. My only point is ........ We shouldn't have to get used to it.

[laborsmith]

Clearly sailed over my head. Not the fist and likely not the last time.

Laborsmith

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I complain cuz it's bad and could have been improved. Choices were made.

Some of you guys seem like you actually wanted poor visibility and are happy it got worse or at best didn't improve.

And yes you can get used to it. I've had enough seat time to know. My only point is ........ We shouldn't have to get used to it.

Which of the six generations of Camaro do you think was the best coupe?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I complain cuz it's bad and could have been improved. Choices were made.

Some of you guys seem like you actually wanted poor visibility and are happy it got worse or at best didn't improve.

And yes you can get used to it. I've had enough seat time to know. My only point is ........ We shouldn't have to get used to it.

Why don't you just buy an ATS-V coupe? Based on our conversations, it seems that fits almost exactly what you want.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Why don't you just buy an ATS-V coupe? Based on our conversations, it seems that fits almost exactly what you want.

You don't want to get me started on how bad the visibility is in an ATS now do you

Tempted but our ATS sedan is really small compared to our SS. Maybe I'm getting old and the appeal of a full size car is taking over. Doh!

That and the $20k or so in price. Double Doh!

[Angrybird 12]

Before poo pooing the visibility of the 6th gen just wait till you get to sit in one and drive it, then if you dont think its improved then poo poo all over it...
Seems like Motortrend and Automobile magazines think its improved.

From Automobiles review,
"Sitting in the driver’s seat, no longer do you feel as though you’re peering through a welding mask’s narrow porthole. The new Camaro is conspicuously airy, with far better visibility to the front and corners; cowl height (where the windshield meets the hood) has dropped by almost 1.6 inches—a massive and long-needed improvement. "