[fastball]

Originally Posted by grnflash

If we had a hand brake, it wouldn't be much of a deal, but of course, the 16's don't. The only way I can think of making it up an extremely steep hill without the hand brake, would be to quasi-heel-n-toe it. Is that what you mean?

Personally, I don't find it very intrusive. Clutch clatter is more noticeable than the hill assist, to be honest.

You don't need a handbrake once you're proficient at driving stick

[grnflash]

Originally Posted by Moc96

Never used the e-brake/hand brake on hills before. Do people do that? I've always relied on my ability to just not roll into the person behind me. Maybe it's old-school(non-millennial) thinking, but if you REALLY know how to drive stick, it's not an issue. I was taught with the "Just don't do that, dumbass" mentality. Not PC these days, but very effective.

Not even sure what "Heel-n-toe" is, to be honest, just know how I've always driven stick, and the hill assist is annoying sometimes. My opinion.

Heel-and-toe is a rev-matching process that uses the right foot to engage both the brake and the throttle at the same time. It's a more advanced manual technique, but occasionally has some everyday uses as well.

Here is Senna doing it on the racetrack:

[Acme]

Originally Posted by Adp2017

My Camaro does not have this feature and I am glad.

I had an ATS manual and it had the hill start assist. I was not a fan but got used to it over time.

I good trick is to let go of the brake, wait 5 seconds, and the brake disengages. Then just roll off the clutch like you're used to. I got pretty good at anticipating when it would release and was actually kind of a fun game to play to get it just right.

Yeah but it's preference, I'd rather go about hills like I normally would in a manual. Too bad you can't just disable it

[Raybreiding]

I don't like it. I know how to hold a car on a hill WITH THE BRAKE. I keep on killing the engine or darting out when the brake releases. Found out todagy you can dismiss this feature when the light turns green

[Acme]

So is there no way to disable this as of right now?

[Corner carver]

Originally Posted by Adp2017

My Camaro does not have this feature and I am glad.

I had an ATS manual and it had the hill start assist. I was not a fan but got used to it over time.

I good trick is to let go of the brake, wait 5 seconds, and the brake disengages. Then just roll off the clutch like you're used to. I got pretty good at anticipating when it would release and was actually kind of a fun game to play to get it just right.

You're driving the same year and model as myself, you do indeed have the hill start assistance... It takes a pretty good slope to activate it, leaving where i work there's a steep hill leaving the parking lot with lights at the top; so I'm stopped there a few times a week and it activates every time.

Edit: more like a couple times a month i guess, its the fiance's DD... When I'm a good boy she lets me take it

[Corner carver]

Originally Posted by fastball

You don't need a handbrake once you're proficient at driving stick

Just for hooning

[Corner carver]

Originally Posted by Adp2017

Does yours have hill start assist? We basically have the same car and I am certain mine doesn't have the feature.

A message will show up in the DIC when it activates

[BrianL]

I've driven stick cars over 40 years. I like this feature on mine & don't find it obtrusive at all. Hills all over the place here. I didn't notice I had to change my take off style either: your on a hill so you have to rev it a bit & slip the clutch to avoid stalling, & it overcomes the e-brake seamlessly for me.

[Husker67]

You know, when some asshole is on your ass at a light on a hill, it comes in handy. And I have driven manuals since the 60's. I absolutely hate people who pull right up my ass when I'm stopped at a red light.

[Acme]

Originally Posted by Husker67

You know, when some asshole is on your ass at a light on a hill, it comes in handy. And I have driven manuals since the 60's. I absolutely hate people who pull right up my ass when I'm stopped at a red light.

Logically, it makes sense; however, I am uneasy about it. I like to get my RPM up right away and take off, I am afraid that the brake will still be engaged when I get up and go.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Husker67

You know, when some asshole is on your ass at a light on a hill, it comes in handy. And I have driven manuals since the 60's. I absolutely hate people who pull right up my ass when I'm stopped at a red light.

Car styling being what it is these days - blame high trunk lines for aero efficiency here - the a-hole you think is only an inch or two off your bumper is actually further back. Most times, anyway. So if you slip back a couple of inches, no big deal, not worth worrying about.


Norm

[BrianL]

Don't be afraid of it. It isn't a big deal, you will notice the info screen message more then the actual feeling when the car takes off. I like it personally. Pretty unnoticeable to me when taking off, but instead of the car slightly going backwards with the clutch in while you are just starting to move on a hill, it stays put until you engage the clutch friction point & moves forward.

[fighting irish]

The first few thousand miles, I hated it. It felt very intrusive and I stalled a couple times as a result of not expecting it. However since about 3k miles, it freels less intrusive and actually seems to be calibrated well to my driving style. That said, I still prefer the feel of a mechanical parking brake.