[ender2664]

Originally Posted by Lucely Engineered

It's expensive for a reason.

I didn't say it is overpriced. I said it is expensive.

[SpookShow'84]

I get that, wheel speed and land speed are not directly related. I'm just saying that with a positional tolerance of 10ft the system cannot receive the time signature and process a location fast enough to give you the kind of accuracy that a beam will give if vehicle is moving 0-100mph in one second. For a Camaro it's going to work really well.

[Lucely Engineered]

Originally Posted by ender2664

Would you like to ask me if I care what you believe?

Always with the hostility towards anyone who replies to your threads with anything that you don't want to hear. I'm in no way an internet warrior so i guess ill just leave you in your ignorance and not reply to your threads anymore.

Obviously you care enough about what others think to post 10 threads a day on the same/similar subjects, and then refuse to take information or opinions from anyone else without any sort of resistance.

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by Lucely Engineered

Always with the hostility towards anyone who replies to your threads with anything that you don't want to hear. I'm in no way an internet warrior so i guess ill just leave you in your ignorance and not reply to your threads anymore.

Obviously you care enough about what others think to post 10 threads a day on the same/similar subjects, and then refuse to take information or opinions from anyone else without any sort of resistance.

You obviously do not read the threads or choose to cherry pick as I clearly acknowledge points people make that I did not consider, including in this very thread. I reviewed it and three times I thank people for bringing things to my attention that I did not consider.
I do not post to see if people care, why would I care what people I don't know think?
Read the posts.

[SpookShow'84]

Originally Posted by Lucely Engineered

Always with the hostility towards anyone who replies to your threads with anything that you don't want to hear. I'm in no way an internet warrior so i guess ill just leave you in your ignorance and not reply to your threads anymore.

Obviously you care enough about what others think to post 10 threads a day on the same/similar subjects, and then refuse to take information or opinions from anyone else without any sort of resistance.

He has a hard time with constructive criticism is all. That's why he needs to go to Pomona, if he's that fast, it will show. If he's full of it, that will show too.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ender2664

Speed shot up, timer did not stop.

...and that is exactly the problem with these timers. Your wheel speed shot up, but your actual speed didn't. The timer measures off wheel speed, so if wheel spin makes the speed go up even a tiny bit, it will think you got to 60 mph quicker then you actually did.

Originally Posted by Lucely Engineered

Always with the hostility towards anyone who replies to your threads with anything that you don't want to hear.

I agree 100%.

[Emoto]

[Lafourche1]

I'll just offer up my opinion. Magazine writers typically test all vehicles with the same criteria. In other words, the same place using the same techniques. Rarely do they power shift or speed shift manuals. The road / track they use is not usually prepared (no glue sprayed down). The people that do the testing, test hundreds of cars a year. Most have been or are professional drivers. The writers have all been to competitive driving schools and many hold different competition licenses.

In any comparative test, the timed sections are done by a professional driver. Steve Millen was often used by Car and Driver for the Corvette / 911 / 3rd car here comparative tests.

The goal of the magazine is to put each car through the same tests, under the same conditions, using the same techniques. They also state that times within .XX is the same time. Within the noise is the common term.

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by Lafourche1

I'll just offer up my opinion. Magazine writers typically test all vehicles with the same criteria. In other words, the same place using the same techniques. Rarely do they power shift or speed shift manuals. The road / track they use is not usually prepared (no glue sprayed down). The people that do the testing, test hundreds of cars a year. Most have been or are professional drivers. The writers have all been to competitive driving schools and many hold different competition licenses.

In any comparative test, the timed sections are done by a professional driver. Steve Millen was often used by Car and Driver for the Corvette / 911 / 3rd car here comparative tests.

The goal of the magazine is to put each car through the same tests, under the same conditions, using the same techniques. They also state that times within .XX is the same time. Within the noise is the common term.

Many good points, but I do have a little info to add on the they use the same technique point-
I remember watching a comparison where they state something to the effect of the best time they got on a Mustang was dumping the clutch at x rpm but the best time they got in the camaro was by feathering.
Are you saying they only try one technique or that they have a few set techniques they use?

[Lafourche1]

Originally Posted by ender2664

Many good points, but I do have a little info to add on the they use the same technique point-
I remember watching a comparison where they state something to the effect of the best time they got on a Mustang was dumping the clutch at x rpm but the best time they got in the camaro was by feathering.
Are you saying they only try one technique or that they have a few set techniques they use?

I am sure that in different cars, they have to vary the launch technique. AWD vehicles may be revved to 6K RPMs and have the clutch dropped. That is usually accompanied by some statement that this is not the best for longevity of the vehicle. Launch control would be employed as well. The magazines would want the best, most consistent launches. Their shift points would vary, too. In other words, faster times may be had by shifting car X at 5500 RPMS while car Z was better at 6000. They may try several runs to test these shift points out, too.

The consistency is in using the same professional driver; same surfaces (track, skid pad, strip), typically unprepared; same shifting techniques and the testing is done with at least some thought of the vehicle surviving the tests.