[ChefBorOzzy]

However, I still enjoy driving my Mustang as it bounces up and down the street.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

I'm wondering how long the A6 will be around in Mustang. Through next year at least, but the A10 is debuting in Raptor next year as well.

2017 MY Mustang perhaps. Roll it out to GT at the same time as a dual DI/PI fueling system that's already in GT350.

I'm willing to bet the A10 will be available for MY17, but it could be available for the Camaro at the same time. But I haven't heard anything lately on the GM version of the A10, other than it was being co-developed with Ford.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

I'm willing to bet the A10 will be available for MY17, but it could be available for the Camaro at the same time. But I haven't heard anything lately on the GM version of the A10, other than it was being co-developed with Ford.

Didn't Ford take point in developing the A10 and GM the A9? Because I know that both were in the works simultaneously.

It's been a while since I've heard anything on them, they just sort of faded into background chatter, save for the Raptor announcement.

I thought I was weird that GM started throwing 8-speeds in things when the 9 and 10 are literally just around the corner.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Didn't Ford take point in developing the A10 and GM the A9? Because I know that both were in the works simultaneously.

It's been a while since I've heard anything on them, they just sort of faded into background chatter, save for the Raptor announcement.

I thought I was weird that GM started throwing 8-speeds in things when the 9 and 10 are literally just around the corner.

Didn't hear anything about how was taking point on what. Here's what I could find officially.

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/n...nsmission.html

My guess the 8 speed was already in development for CAFE reasons when this deal was formalized, otherwise I'm sure GM would have waited. With GM having done a lot of the work they did already with the 8 speed for RWD, I'm betting Ford is taking the lead on the 9 speed for FWD. But that's just a guess.

[khell86]

Originally Posted by IOMike

By performance I meant acceleration. The 15GT is not faster than the 14GT. They knew roughly what the Camaro was going to be about and they knew that 435hp/400tq in a 3750lb (roughly) with a 6 speed auto was going to be slower than what Camaro was going to offer in a comparable trim.

I'm sure the handling of the 15 GT is better than the 14 GT.

The 15 GT is quite a bit faster on the top end. It's trap speed shows the improvements as well. The IRS doesnt hook up as well as the Solid Axle though, so its 0-60 and 60ft times are actually worst right now.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by khell86

The 15 GT is quite a bit faster on the top end. It's trap speed shows the improvements as well. The IRS doesnt hook up as well as the Solid Axle though, so its 0-60 and 60ft times are actually worst right now.

I assume the IRS puts a few less ponies to the ground too. While I have not looked at dynos between the 14 gt and 15, generally speaking SRA is more efficient.

Maybe the 10 speed autos will be the bees knees, but if they are better than the 8l90 GM will use them too. The 6l80 was an average transmission as I never felt it was very responsive or fast to shift. From what I've read, the 8l90 is much better in those regards.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by IOMike

I assume the IRS puts a few less ponies to the ground too. While I have not looked at dynos between the 14 gt and 15, generally speaking SRA is more efficient.

Maybe the 10 speed autos will be the bees knees, but if they are better than the 8l90 GM will use them too. The 6l80 was an average transmission as I never felt it was very responsive or fast to shift. From what I've read, the 8l90 is much better in those regards.

I'm curious if they will have the same ratios since Ford over gears them to take advantage of the high winding DOHC vs gm's wider gears for lowend/mid range grunt. Or will the trans itself be swapped by replacing bell housing and the tailshaft?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

I'm curious if they will have the same ratios since Ford over gears them to take advantage of the high winding DOHC vs gm's wider gears for lowend/mid range grunt. Or will the trans itself be swapped by replacing bell housing and the tailshaft?

I'm sure they will if they need too. Changing the rear ratio will probably where the biggest changes will be.

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[FINALLYSATISFIED]

I won't comment much on the Gen 6 until I see a 1LE or ZL1 version.

[pdoherty972]

Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

I've seen that toilet bowl comment made by some Mustang boys..... I understand it's a jab similar to the previous Mustang having a Kim Kardashian sized @ss, but I just don't see it.

It's a dumb observation to begin with. As if finding a similarity of any object on a car with some other object means anything,

[Brad.]

Hm. Not sure about this one. Gonna go off the middle class Mustang/Camaro because the V8 vs V8 has been beat to death. Drag Radial, E30, and IC ecoboosts go mid to high 11's on the 1/4 mile. I'm really interested to see what the V6 Camaro can do (with similar mods) given it's hp,tq, and weigh ratings from the mags. Anyone know if times have been released for the 6th gen Camaro?

[Tr6]

I drove a 2015 mustang v6 as well as a 2015 camaro v6 (both base, and were rental cars for work). I honestly have to say that I loved the driving of the mustang more than the camaro. Interior was more spacious for me, the blind spots where much better, interior was better quality per say as well and the driving feel was much better. Camaro for me had the much better exterior and engine though.

If I were to buy EITHER, I would've gone with the mustang. Now... Gen 6 is a whole other ball game. I am in love with the exterior, interior, LT1, tech packages and everything so when we are to compare a gen 6 camaro to a mustang... What's a mustang? Never heard of her.

I cannot wait till Nov 7th where I get to drive probably a 1SS auto on the texas motor speedway. I will be able to tell and feel a lot more of the gen 6!

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by Tr6

I drove a 2015 mustang v6 as well as a 2015 camaro v6 (both base, and were rental cars for work). I honestly have to say that I loved the driving of the mustang more than the camaro. Interior was more spacious for me, the blind spots where much better, interior was better quality per say as well and the driving feel was much better. Camaro for me had the much better exterior and engine though.

If I were to buy EITHER, I would've gone with the mustang. Now... Gen 6 is a whole other ball game. I am in love with the exterior, interior, LT1, tech packages and everything so when we are to compare a gen 6 camaro to a mustang... What's a mustang? Never heard of her.

I cannot wait till Nov 7th where I get to drive probably a 1SS auto on the texas motor speedway. I will be able to tell and feel a lot more of the gen 6!

I was IN LOVE with the camaro interior until someone pointed out the owl boner, and well, I couldn't get that out of my head.

[p2architect]

The Camaro crushes because of history on GM's side like this man.

Craig Hendrickson of H-O Racing Specialties, Hawthorne, California, pondered over the NHRA rated horsepower, shipping weights, class Indexes and decided that the 455 TA looked fairly promising in SS/KA. That assumption was recently substantiated when Craig set the SS/KA national record at 11.31 sec ET and 118.73 mph. What he has done to extract over 500 hp out of the 455 under the limited changes allowed in Super Stock by NHRA. The '74 Pontiac Trans Am Firebird was a very formidable performer even in showroom stock condition