[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by BigDan

Really? Do you have any links to this story?

Please show me pictures of this factory CAI for the 5.0L

The factory headers have been mentioned in many magazines and the first 5.0 that arrived at our local dealership had a CAI that said Ford Racing on it. That's the CAI you would get if you ordered a performance CAI from FOMOCO...isn't it?

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Agree with your points, but there are also no published sub-12 second times for the ZL1. But here we are focusing on quarter mile times when we all know the ZL1 was not designed to shine there. I'm more concerned about the most recent information regarding the improvement over the 2012 GT500 coupe that the 2013 convertible seems to have made. Wouldn't it be a kick in the you-know-what if the 2013 GT500 beat the ZL1 coupe around a track, any track!

The Ford guys say the GT500 beats the Boss 302 on a road course, even though I proved some Boss 302s have run the same the same tracks faster than the GT500. If that's so, it's going to be one hell-of-a-battle between the 13 GT500 and the ZL1...we shoulde be glad that's happening!!!

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Agree with your points, but there are also no published sub-12 second times for the ZL1. But here we are focusing on quarter mile times when we all know the ZL1 was not designed to shine there. I'm more concerned about the most recent information regarding the improvement over the 2012 GT500 coupe that the 2013 convertible seems to have made. Wouldn't it be a kick in the you-know-what if the 2013 GT500 beat the ZL1 coupe around a track, any track!

I think the 3 second improvement for the Convertible was against the 2012 Convertible, not coupe, times. But I am not positive on that.


Edit: I misread the article. He did say 3.5 seconds faster than the outgoing coupe.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

The Ford guys say the GT500 beats the Boss 302 on a road course, even though I proved some Boss 302s have run the same the same tracks faster than the GT500. If that's so, it's going to be one hell-of-a-battle between the 13 GT500 and the ZL1...we shoulde be glad that's happening!!!

The only time the Boss went up against the GT500 head-to-head on a track the GT500 won. And this was a pre 2013 GT500.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by BigDan

There have been 100% stock 2011+ in the 11's.

11.8@121 being the quickest 2011-12.

Your post implies there were multiple 2011-12s in the 11s. Can you give me a few links to peruse? We're talking bone stock on factory tires..right?

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Your post implies there were multiple 2011-12s in the 11s. Can you give me a few links to peruse? We're talking bone stock on factory tires..right?

yes the 2010 on factory tires ran 11.95 @ 120.77.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

yes the 2010 on factory tires ran 11.95 @ 120.77.

That's not exactly a link and not exactly a 2011-2012.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

That's not exactly a link and not exactly a 2011-2012.

are you actually going to argue the 2010 would be quicker/faster than the 2011-2012?

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Your post implies there were multiple 2011-12s in the 11s. Can you give me a few links to peruse? We're talking bone stock on factory tires..right?

Yup, because that's how you're going to find them at the strip right?

Why is it with "good" tires, the ZL1 is a mid 11 second rocketship to you, but a 650HP car that weighs less with a soild rear axle on a "good" tire won't run better?

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Your post implies there were multiple 2011-12s in the 11s. Can you give me a few links to peruse? We're talking bone stock on factory tires..right?

I dont have any links to the runs but there have been a few posts in various forums mentioning that 11.8 and one or two other 11.9's. There is also one or two SVTP members who have beat Evan Smiths 11.9 with their 2010's one being a 11.8 which may have documentation.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

are you actually going to argue the 2010 would be quicker/faster than the 2011-2012?

Just for the record, not all Chevy/Camaro people are this clueless.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Some folks are math impaired I guess, but i totaled the ETs of 6 runs posted by the magazines and divided that sum by 6 and guess what...that's the average...like it or not.

Would you mind posting the average for the zl1 also? Still don't understand the logic of comparing best to average.

[Sax1031]

The thing is this, like I have said, the ZL1 and the 2011-2012 GT500 have nearly identical power-to-weight ratios.

On a drag strip they should run nearly identical times, properly driven of course.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The thing is this, like I have said, the ZL1 and the 2011-2012 GT500 have nearly identical power-to-weight ratios.

On a drag strip they should run nearly identical times, properly driven of course.

Sounds spot on until we see stock powered ZL1's running 10's vs 11.1's like the GT500 has already done on stickies.



Strictly talking stock powered with stickies..... they should be neck and neck down the 1320 giving the slight edge to the GT500 due to its ability to 60ft better.