[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

You said Dark Horse. Now a 5.0 might be 50K-ish but the Dark Horse I pre-ordered was mid-60. TOO much. Great car I am sure, but no ZL1.

According to Ford's sight the DH starts at 60 - the premium is 62. NUTS, N U T Z!

Originally it was only supposed to be about 47-50k then they jacked it up recently. Disappointed its 65kish now.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by FordGuyWhoBoughtCamaro

Yeah, i might regret it, but the cost was too much, im already stretching as it is. My options are, Rapid Blue, Ceramic white interior, 6/4 piston brembos, 6 speed, illuminated footwells, and the black spoiler/mirrors. Considered magneride, but decided against (feel free to try to change my mind here)

If you can afford it get MRC. Its a game changer, improves handling, and launching for drag racing.

Puts you almost on par with the 1LE package by itself just not having to spend $7000 when 1/2 of it is cosmetic.

As far as braking is concerned, this is just my opinion. I see the 6 piston more for track performance level braking. I have the 4 piston, but I upgraded to Drilled Slotted rotors and Powerstop extreme pad, granted I also go to the dragstrip as well but the upgrade improved my brake performance by what feels like 20-30% especially with 1LE tire widths. I was surprised the difference the rotors and pads made on the 4 piston setup.

[clg82]

The interiors on Furds leave a lot to be desired, old neighbor had bought a GT500 the same year I bought my ZL1 and the interior on the Chevy was light years better, and he paid over 6 figures for that car. I frequent a few of the Furd forums to stay up to date with their cars and to say the Furd community isn't disappointed in the DH is an understatement. Not only are they turned off by the cost for what their getting, they also complain that the interior looks slapped together and unfinished.

[FordGuyWhoBoughtCamaro]

Thanks everyone for the input, this seems lile a good community. Will post pictures of the car when it shows up...if it shows up....

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by FordGuyWhoBoughtCamaro

Thanks everyone for the input, this seems lile a good community. Will post pictures of the car when it shows up...if it shows up....

Good luck brother

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[ZPirate]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

If you can afford it get MRC. Its a game changer, improves handling, and launching for drag racing.

Puts you almost on par with the 1LE package by itself just not having to spend $7000 when 1/2 of it is cosmetic.

As far as braking is concerned, this is just my opinion. I see the 6 piston more for track performance level braking. I have the 4 piston, but I upgraded to Drilled Slotted rotors and Powerstop extreme pad, granted I also go to the dragstrip as well but the upgrade improved my brake performance by what feels like 20-30% especially with 1LE tire widths. I was surprised the difference the rotors and pads made on the 4 piston setup.

MRC is a game changer in terms of both ride and handling. However, I disagree with Fluke about the 1LE package. It's the best performance bang for the buck out there. And half of the package isn't cosmetic. If you purchased all the 1LE upgrades that you can get a la carte you would spend as much as the 1LE package costs and still wouldn't have all the upgrades the 1LE package provides as some aren't available on a non 1LE. The a la carte costs to add 1LE specific performance items to a non 1LE Camaro are as follows: FE4 suspension ($1,995), Recaro seats ($1,595), MRC ($1,695), NPP ($995), 6 pot Brembos ($3,395). And you can't purchase the E-LSD or the forged 1LE wheels a la carte. Plus on the 1SS Camaro, the 1LE package includes the HUD and leather rear seats, which aren't otherwise available on a 1SS.

[Geese1]

Originally Posted by ZPirate

MRC is a game changer in terms of both ride and handling. However, I disagree with Fluke about the 1LE package. It's the best performance bang for the buck out there. And half of the package isn't cosmetic. If you purchased all the 1LE upgrades that you can get a la carte you would spend as much as the 1LE package costs and still wouldn't have all the upgrades the 1LE package provides as some aren't available on a non 1LE. The a la carte costs to add 1LE specific performance items to a non 1LE Camaro are as follows: FE4 suspension ($1,995), Recaro seats ($1,595), MRC ($1,695), NPP ($995), 6 pot Brembos ($3,395). And you can't purchase the E-LSD or the forged 1LE wheels a la carte. Plus on the 1SS Camaro, the 1LE package includes the HUD and leather rear seats, which aren't otherwise available on a 1SS.

I've heard that there are other upgrades as well which don't really get advertised/mentioned, like the fuel pump being the same one that is in the ZL-1. There might be others, but this is one I've heard from various sources.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Geese1

I've heard that there are other upgrades as well which don't really get advertised/mentioned, like the fuel pump being the same one that is in the ZL-1. There might be others, but this is one I've heard from various sources.

Yes, there are other minor improvements in the 1LE, too. Truth to be told, though, this specific one isn't too helpful: the low side (in-tank) fuel pump in the 1LE is the same as the unit in the ZL1, but the HPFP is not, that one you need to upgrade anyway if you ever want moar powah.

[Geese1]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Yes, there are other minor improvements in the 1LE, too. Truth to be told, though, this specific one isn't too helpful: the low side (in-tank) fuel pump in the 1LE is the same as the unit in the ZL1, but the HPFP is not, that one you need to upgrade anyway if you ever want moar powah.

Thanks for the more detailed explanation!

What are some of the other minor improvements you mentioned? I'm curious what other upgrades the 1LE cars get that aren't really advertised by GM.

[FordGuyWhoBoughtCamaro]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Good luck brother

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Well, I found a used 2022 with all the features I wanted, and some I didn't (sunroof, magneride) with 7K miles on it. Put a deposit on it instead of playing this "will they ever build it?" game I see going on out there. Saved a bit of money and got some extra goodies. Now, this will be my first muscle car, I'm having people tell me I should require the dealer to do a compression test and let me watch. Is this a normal thing?

[haggler]

After I sold my 2019 miata I was looking for a sports car with a good manual transmission that was almost as good as the miata. Test drove an '19 Ecoboost manual, '19 civic si, '19 WRX,'15 auto GT, '18 auto v6 camaro, '18 auto 2SS v8, '18 manual GT and finally a '18 2SS manual- in that order.
First thing I noticed was the Camaro actually had SOME steering feel, but the GT sounded better. The clutch and gearbox of the GT was horrible. I later learned that you basically have to immediately change the clutch spring on the GT. It basically snaps back and has no progression whatsoever. It felt like it was designed as an after thought. This combined with everyone on the MT-82, kept me far away. I had almost bought a 2020 auto GT with PP1, but this was right when dealers started raising prices and couldn't make a deal (still far below MSRP in retrospec). Also didn't really want an auto and thought I would regret it. A year later I finally found a manual 2SS to test drive at Carmax. The TR-6060 made it a joy to drive. I put in an order a month later and got the car exactly to my spec back in October. I didn't get the 1LE package because I wasn't sold 100% on the Recaros. I sat in a new ZL1 (only recaros I could find within 50 miles at the time) and didn't fit comfortably. I am a wider body frame and I was basically sitting on top of the bolsters. Some say the seats mold to your body, but I didn't want to take the chance on an order. In retrospec, I am happy with the 2SS because the performance is already very high and I don't expect to track the car. The other bits make the car feel special to drive as its not my daily. Everyone raves about MRC, but I didn't want the extra complexity. I always tell myself I may upgrade to the non-mrc GM performance suspension, but everytime I drive the car I see no need. This car feels like a big bad v8 miata. PS. NPP sounds pretty damn good.