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Old 05-30-2022, 07:33 PM   #113
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i was looking specifically for a 1LE when i bought my car. it was the cats ass in 17 & 18. the 17s scared me a bit with sway bar fastener and steering issues. justified or not, i bought an 18 hoping to avoid these issues. 34k miles and it has been flawless.

if i was looking to get into a camaro now id most likely buy an LT1 model and option it how i wanted. luckily almost all of the parts from other trims easily fit, so something like a wheel or brake upgrade would be very easy to do. i've always been a fan of making a car what you want. if it's made how you want it already, there's no shame in going that route. i did and don't regret any of it.
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Old 05-30-2022, 07:50 PM   #114
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i was looking specifically for a 1LE when i bought my car. it was the cats ass in 17 & 18. the 17s scared me a bit with sway bar fastener and steering issues. justified or not, i bought an 18 hoping to avoid these issues. 34k miles and it has been flawless.

if i was looking to get into a camaro now id most likely buy an LT1 model and option it how i wanted. luckily almost all of the parts from other trims easily fit, so something like a wheel or brake upgrade would be very easy to do. i've always been a fan of making a car what you want. if it's made how you want it already, there's no shame in going that route. i did and don't regret any of it.
I've got my eye on a 1SS. It has the upgraded brakes from the copper-free option being ticked. Fingers crossed the high gas prices will scare off the original buyer.
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Old 05-30-2022, 09:47 PM   #115
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You're right in that I should've qualified what I said, I meant the rear brakes and the discrepancy between front and rear.

The LT1 has SS front brakes and junkyard find looking, weak rear brakes. I do understand that front brakes do most of the work, so it probably doesn't reduce overall emergency stopping distance by a very large margin, but based on how the OP clearly expressed his priorities, one of which is good looking car/wheels, I presumed that staring at those gray Equinox/Malibu/Trax calipers isn't something he would opt for, even if losing a bit of braking power might be fine with him.
This is hilarious, junkyard find. Guess it’s just a matter of perspective and priorities. The rear rotors and calipers are much larger that’s those of a typical cars rear brake set up. Do the upgraded brakes look better? Sure they do…

With that said, I can’t believe I had 3 separate compliments on my car between yesterday and today. I wonder why they didn’t mention the crappy looking calipers? Again, priorities and perspective.

Anyway, it may be best to not bash a whole sub set of LT1’s, or for that matter other (s) LT models. I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way, but that’s the way it came across. Let’s just stick with: the upgraded brakes make the car look “even more” special.
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Old 05-30-2022, 10:19 PM   #116
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This is hilarious, junkyard find. Guess it’s just a matter of perspective and priorities. The rear rotors and calipers are much larger that’s those of a typical cars rear brake set up. Do the upgraded brakes look better? Sure they do…

With that said, I can’t believe I had 3 separate compliments on my car between yesterday and today. I wonder why they didn’t mention the crappy looking calipers? Again, priorities and perspective.

Anyway, it may be best to not bash a whole sub set of LT1’s, or for that matter other (s) LT models. I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way, but that’s the way it came across. Let’s just stick with: the upgraded brakes make the car look “even more” special.
Compliments are nice and all, but I buy the car for myself first and foremost. LT1 option isn't dead in the water. Still I am looking at all my options. Mainly cause the 1SS 1LE seems to be at least a month away, all I have is time.

I really do love brakes that fill the wheel as much as possible though, I didn't expect the rears on the LT1 to be so small.
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Old 05-30-2022, 10:35 PM   #117
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Compliments are nice and all, but I buy the car for myself first and foremost. LT1 option isn't dead in the water. Still I am looking at all my options. Mainly cause the 1SS 1LE seems to be at least a month away, all I have is time.

I really do love brakes that fill the wheel as much as possible though, I didn't expect the rears on the LT1 to be so small.
Yea, I don’t disagree with you, they look small, because the other calipers are so huge. The point is to at least try to be respectful of others people cars…. And my post is not directed at you, get what makes you happy. As far as me, I can basically buy most any car I want (within reason of course). I just happen to like the LT1. No scraping splitter, no dusty brakes, less complex front end to wash, fewer things to break, semi analog gauges, easier entry and exit…without recaro’s and in my opinion, a better looking spoiler than the SS /ZL1.
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Old 05-30-2022, 11:00 PM   #118
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This is hilarious, junkyard find. Guess it’s just a matter of perspective and priorities. The rear rotors and calipers are much larger that’s those of a typical cars rear brake set up. Do the upgraded brakes look better? Sure they do…

With that said, I can’t believe I had 3 separate compliments on my car between yesterday and today. I wonder why they didn’t mention the crappy looking calipers? Again, priorities and perspective.

Anyway, it may be best to not bash a whole sub set of LT1’s, or for that matter other (s) LT models. I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way, but that’s the way it came across. Let’s just stick with: the upgraded brakes make the car look “even more” special.
I'm sorry, this wasn't tactful indeed. I personally don't think such a caliper belongs on a V8 Camaro (it looks like what I had on my previous V6 and I disliked it even when it was mine), but that's all, I never meant to insult you or any other LT1 owner.
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Old 05-30-2022, 11:11 PM   #119
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I'm sorry, this wasn't tactful indeed. I personally don't think such a caliper belongs on a V8 Camaro (it looks like what I had on my previous V6 and I disliked it even when it was mine), but that's all, I never meant to insult you or any other LT1 owner.
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Old 05-31-2022, 08:01 AM   #120
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I grabbed an LT1 because at the time the LT1 was almost 10k cheaper in my area. A few things I would've liked from the 1SS and perhaps the 1LE, but I am still happy with my purchase.

If the numbers had worked out differently, I may have had a 1SS 1LE instead.


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Old 05-31-2022, 08:33 AM   #121
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You can't go wrong either way.
There are plenty of take-off rims and rear Brembo's can be had for a decent price.
There's more than a few wrecked Camaros out there.
Availability and price were the reason for the LT1 here.
Replacing a few items that wear out fast anyway isn't such a big deal.
After the proper rated tires are installed the speed limiter will be dealt with.
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Old 05-31-2022, 08:35 AM   #122
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Are the brakes on the LT1 the same as the drag rear brakes on gm performance parts site?
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Old 05-31-2022, 10:13 AM   #123
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You can't go wrong either way.
There are plenty of take-off rims and rear Brembo's can be had for a decent price.
There's more than a few wrecked Camaros out there.
Availability and price were the reason for the LT1 here.
Replacing a few items that wear out fast anyway isn't such a big deal.
After the proper rated tires are installed the speed limiter will be dealt with.
I’m just regurgitating information I’ve picked up here…unfortunately, for those that want to upgrade the rear brakes on the LT1. It isn't plug and play like it would be on and SS. The entire rear brake set up is different….
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Old 05-31-2022, 10:34 AM   #124
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I’m just regurgitating information I’ve picked up here…unfortunately, for those that want to upgrade the rear brakes on the LT1. It isn't plug and play like it would be on and SS. The entire rear brake set up is different….
That's really unfortunate
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Old 05-31-2022, 11:13 AM   #125
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I’m just regurgitating information I’ve picked up here…unfortunately, for those that want to upgrade the rear brakes on the LT1. It isn't plug and play like it would be on and SS. The entire rear brake set up is different….
I found the link. FWIW I think the LT1 brakes work fine.
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=581436
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Old 05-31-2022, 11:30 AM   #126
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I think more than a few people passed on the 1LE in the past due to the manual trans being the only thing available.

When I was looking the dealer in Long Beach had at least 5 1LEs all with the auto trans.
I didn't see any manuals on the lot or in transit. Its the managements job to order what sells.



Don't forget in the process of deciding that any add on bits won't get you any more money on the back end. Yes they may help sell the car quicker, but book value is book value.

Price out both trims online and input the same miles. There is the value of the 1LE

I think I paid 7,000 for the package.

I priced out 2020s and put 15000 miles in.

A loaded LT1 with Recaros, NPP ect was valued at 36,122 on the high end
Same info on a 1SS with the performance package was 45,872
Both manuals.


I had about 8 to 9K in parts on a 15 Mustang GT.
Sold it to the first guy who saw it. I got top book value for a GT.

Not one penny for the add on parts.
The buyer got a great deal and I got a 2SS 1LE. Winning...
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