[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Elite design has the restrictor under the blower - where it should be - they calculated max vapor flow through the inlet line and can for optimum separation performance. These cans are still relatively small so high velocity is a problem

It's just another indication MM doesn't really know what they're doing, my Elite E2X has been flawless. I empty it every 3-5k

Horseshit.

[20Bluezl1]

I had a feeling this would stir up the pot.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Horseshit.

HAHAHA took words right out of my mouth.


Elite cans have the PCV still built in, the wild is a plug under the SC.



As i said 2 different designs. MM cans work wonderful, OP installer just didn't know what he was doing.

[Bangkok_ZL1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Horseshit.

LOLLOLLOL
You know, when that guy told me what I was going to do with my car 6 months from now without ever asking me, like he was the freak'in prognosticator god, I was thinking, this guy's an idiot. Since then, He's on my ignore list. I only see replies from him, too many, LOL.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

This only happens with the aftermarket valve covers since the baffling is obviously not as good as the OEM ones...

Agree...Primarily the Speed Engineering units.

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Horseshit.

This!!

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

MM cans work wonderful

Based on what? Another member posted pics of significant oil accumulation on the blower and lid running a MM. Again, one has proof, the other has claims

[SFV1LE]

There are a lot of CC threads with strong opinions about the need for it, warranty issues, which one is best,etc. I have a few of questions...

1. Is this mod primarily for modified cars running higher boost and +100 whp, or it it highly recommend for 100% stock cars as well?
2. If someone is emptying their cc every 1-5k miles, I assume that means that the blow-by exhaust gas would be causing noticeable oil consumption as it escapes past rings and burns the oil on the cylinder walls below piston ring or burns intake oil vapor in combustion chamber, is that correct?
3. If a car has zero oil consumption either during heavy track use or street use, does that mean they don't need a catch can?

I assume the answer is yes, if there is no oil disappearing from oil pan then it's not being burned by blow-by or vapor collecting in SC or other parts of intake tract.

[ZX-10R]

The short answer is any boosted engine (unless it has a baffled head, similar to the Honda Type R design) needs a catch can/separator properly sized for vapor flow rate because blowby will accumulate in the intake over time, and in the case of DI engines, fuel doesn't wash off the valves.

The more boost and the harder you drive the car, the worse the problem is

Worth watching, about 6:30 in

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by Bangkok_ZL1

LOLLOLLOL
You know, when that guy told me what I was going to do with my car 6 months from now without ever asking me, like he was the freak'in prognosticator god, I was thinking, this guy's an idiot. Since then, He's on my ignore list. I only see replies from him, too many, LOL.

[SJFGTO]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

The short answer is any boosted engine (unless it has a baffled head, similar to the Honda Type R design) needs a catch can/separator properly sized for vapor flow rate because blowby will accumulate in the intake over time, and in the case of DI engines, fuel doesn't wash off the valves.

The more boost and the harder you drive the car, the worse the problem is

Worth watching, about 6:30 in

Agreed!

[SONiC MOjO]

I didn’t mean to stir the pot, I just don’t know what the issue is. I had an elite2 can in before and it work fine. Going to the Magnuson and SE valve covers my builder said the E2 will no longer work with this setup. So I got the MM, and just have had nothing but issues with it.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by SONiC MOjO

I didn’t mean to stir the pot, I just don’t know what the issue is. I had an elite2 can in before and it work fine. Going to the Magnuson and SE valve covers my builder said the E2 will no longer work with this setup. So I got the MM, and just have had nothing but issues with it.

I already told u what to do, its not the can. Its the combination of the valve covers and and high vaccum.


Just add a $3 reducer and your problem is solved.

[SFV1LE]

What's the reason for the Speed Engineering valve covers? I haven't heard of any performance benefit from aftermarket valve covers, are they required in some way for the 2650 upgrade? Or is it cosmetic (they're billet and have a nice logo machined into the top)?

If that's the case, and they're contributing to the problem, you should reinstall the OEM covers. Even if you solve this with a restrictor or different CC, adding a part that creates problems in a vital area of your motor seems like a bad idea.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by SFV1LE

What's the reason for the Speed Engineering valve covers? I haven't heard of any performance benefit from aftermarket valve covers, are they required in some way for the 2650 upgrade? Or is it cosmetic (they're billet and have a nice logo machined into the top)?

If that's the case, and they're contributing to the problem, you should reinstall the OEM covers. Even if you solve this with a restrictor or different CC, adding a part that creates problems in a vital area of your motor seems like a bad idea.

Because you have to modify the stock valve covers for the 2650 to fit. It's no big deal really but some have decided to replace them instead.