[Maro_89]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

It depends on your intended use as to which one you buy Maro 89. If you are planning on doing a lot of track events then the ZLE is your Camaro but if you want a good street Camaro then the regular ZL1 would fill the bill. The ZLE was built as a specific track car that you can drive to and from to the track but as you know the tires are made for track use and wear out fast. If you really like the look of the ZLE and can afford one then just change the tires to a summer performance tire and rock on!��

Hi Gregg I agree with you and sure it depends on what I would do with the car but it will be mostly daily driven and maybe some back roads to screw around with it. I do like doing highway pulls as well and occasional roll racing. While that may sound like the standard ZL1 may seem to be more than enough and it could be, I just happen to like the exterior looks of the ZL1 1LE but the standard ZL1 is also very nice looking as well.

I drove both cars twice on two different occasions to get the feel for them. To be honest I did feel more entertained driving ZL1 1LE maybe because for what it is and how good the exhaust sounds from in the car. The first drive with the ZL1 1LE was fine drove ok didn’t feel rough but it was mostly driven on smooth roads. The second drive we went around one road that seemed kinda bumpy but at first I didn’t think it was because of the car being so stiff I just thought of the road being bumpy and that maybe other cars would feel the same way. I felt like I could tolerate it to be honest but these were only short simple drives but obviously I don’t own the car yet to see what it’s like every day. I can only make impressions of it on a test drive.

[Maro_89]

Originally Posted by Apexslayer

Interesting questions - what are you trying to decide and what is important in making your decision?

Honestly between the two cars maybe the biggest concern about the ZL1 1LE is added drag from the aero and lack of DRL’s. I also like to be entertained with a car and I felt like the ZL1 1LE seemed to be more fun. It’s something I would definitely have to think about and decide for sure. But from what I have heard anyone that has traded there standard ZL1 for a ZL1 1LE has not regretted it so that must say something.

[Maro_89]

Originally Posted by 2018$S1le

I can attest 1st hand to how quickly the SC3R tires on the ZLE wear out. After 1500 easy break in miles mine were about 50% worn out. I just changed them out to the Kuhmo Ecsta V720 ACR 355/30-19 rears and 305/30-19 fronts. Definitely a nice change from all the rocks being picked up and flung under the car. They look amazing too. The SC3Rs are so soft that small rocks will literally embed themselves into the tire. Great for track, horrible for the street. I went for the ZLE because of the aggressive look. And mine will be mostly street driven, but when opportunity presents I will definitely track, autox, and drag race the car. Get the one that puts the biggest shit eating grin on your face. You won't regret either one.

Nice thanks for sharing the info and I agree the ZLE is definitely aggressive looking and going for that car on its looks alone just might be worth it. Also glad to hear you daily drive it I’m sure it’s doable for some and don’t mind it. How is it when going for a 1-2 hour drive or even an occasional road trip?

[Maro_89]

Originally Posted by racer01

I have driven both. Lots of nit picks (fog lights, lack of review mirror camera in 1LE, etc) but to me it is really down to a few major points.
1. 1LE add track suspension, tires and aero. If you are not tracking, these are complete downsides even though they are cool to say you have them. On most streets they are probably slower than the non 1LE due to overly stiff suspension and perpetually cold tires.
2. Suspension. Did I mention that. Dang the 1LE is stiff. ZL1 mag ride is awesome on the street.
3. 1LE has shorter 6th gear which is nice to me, but maybe not so nice if you do lots of higher speed highway.
4. Solid rear cradle bushings on 1LE are really nice from factory....wish I had those, but I do intend to track my non-1LE and they are a PITA to install

Other differences are minor. If the price was the same I'd still get the non 1LE even though I am tracking a few times a year mostly due to mag shocks being suited to quick street driving vs. 1LE needing a smooth track to feel at home.

My perfect mix would be mag suspension, 1LE aero, 1LE wheels but with SC3 tires, solid rear subframe, and shorter 6th. Oh and give me those red calipers for some bling.

G

The ZLE doesn’t have a rear view camera or backup camera you mean?

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by Maro_89

Honestly between the two cars maybe the biggest concern about the ZL1 1LE is added drag from the aero

It's probably only an issue as you approach triple digits, but I saw a video of a modded Stang doing high speed rolls with an A10 ZL1 and then a manual ZLE. Of course it may have been the driver as well, but the A10 literally walked away while the ZLE was a much closer race.

The stiff suspension of the ZLE would not bother me personally but I also have to think about the g/f and others who might be riding - then it becomes more of an issue.

I like the ZL1 wheels, always have - makes it look more upscale. The clear tails grew on me. if you're even thinking about going to the track, though, the ZLE is clearly the right choice

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by Maro_89

Honestly between the two cars maybe the biggest concern about the ZL1 1LE is added drag from the aero and lack of DRL’s.

I've been a Z since 2012 so not up on what's available on lower trims, and pretty sure someone who spends more time reading auto mags than chasing tang might correct me, but I'm pretty sure all trims have DRLs under the headlamps. It's just the ZLE is the only one without supplemental DRLs in the fascia.

[GS345]

I was sort of in the same place you are. I chose the ZLE for a couple of reasons.
1. Not a daily driver, strictly a weekender
2. Wanted a car that was factory different from other models. Not added in aftermarket.

I had heard that the suspension was ROUGH. I am mid 50's and it is tight. Went to the PS4's and while it is still tight, it has a totally different ride. Just sort of knocked the edge off of it.

[ZX-10R]

A kid and his Mustang

[Maro_89]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

A kid and his Mustang

Hmm interesting video and I think the kid had a few mods done to his car while the ZLE had one thing done to it I believe and it was a pretty close race. I was hoping the ZLE would pull a little more away from the mustang though. I wonder how that race would have went if it was a regular ZL1 A10 against that mustang or even better yet a stock A10 ZLE vs a stock A10 ZL1 just to see the differences in racing distance between the two cars to give me an idea.

[ZX-10R]

Yep I would love to see a 70 mph roll to 120 ZL1 vs ZLE

Here's the same kid (before mods) vs A10

[racer01]

Originally Posted by Maro_89

The ZLE doesn’t have a rear view camera or backup camera you mean?

No. The regular ZL1 (at least for 19') has a rear view mirror that turns into a camera when you flip the switch. The ZLE wing doesn't allow for this extra camera, so you just get a regular old review mirror (that pretty much just shows you a nice view of the wing).

[minn19]

Originally Posted by racer01

No. The regular ZL1 (at least for 19') has a rear view mirror that turns into a camera when you flip the switch. The ZLE wing doesn't allow for this extra camera, so you just get a regular old review mirror (that pretty much just shows you a nice view of the wing).

At least it is pretty though.

[pauly1119]

Originally Posted by racer01

No. The regular ZL1 (at least for 19') has a rear view mirror that turns into a camera when you flip the switch. The ZLE wing doesn't allow for this extra camera, so you just get a regular old review mirror (that pretty much just shows you a nice view of the wing).

My 18 ZLE has a backup camera thats a full screen.

[Yessa]

All this talk about how fast we can go? Guess what? Ever heard of jail or prison? We have speed limits AND cameras on every corner. Speed kills any-way. Speed is over-rated unless you want to Race your Camaro. Wake up people!