[oldman]

Originally Posted by 13vertss

You are judging. You come on as if you don’t take your 70000 car to the track, you should not of bought it. I don’t need time slips to justify my driving experience.

absolute, I have made a judgment statement, I'm not the one that stated: "I'm not judging". It is called hypocrisy... Now you are tell people what to do with their money... too funny. How many Shelbys are raced Don't really care about your "experience", just pointing out that for some reason you think such "experience" makes your judgment better.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

LOL, and that it can't turn to save his life. Put that thing on a track and see how well it stacks up. Oh wait, that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters to him is the one area where he claims his highly modded race car seems to do well. LOL!!

Spring is coming soon. Pick a road course. Ill meet you there. Like I said talking on a forum dont mean anything. I already know your a lousy drag racer. But Id bet. I could out drive you on a road course also. It sucks when ya live in the same state as the guy your talkin at. According to you and hotlap. You have the superior car. Can you actually prove that is the question? And my point about the bench racers raises its ugly head. Bench racers talk. Racers show up!

[oldman]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Spring is coming soon. Pick a road course. Ill meet you there. Like I said talking on a forum dont mean anything. I already know your a lousy drag racer. But Id bet. I could out drive you on a road course also. It sucks when ya live in the same state as the guy yiur talkin at.

LOL, man you are the big man I don't like what you said about a car, so I need to show you in a race. There is always a faster car, a prettier wife, a better driver. Proves nothing, except that you are a child.

Also since we are on the topic, I hate your picture, it is everything that is wrong with the Mustang, a strip car of the ugliest pony car ever made, I'd rather race a Gremlin, seriously. Who cares how fast a drag prep car is, it is SO ugly. My gosh... Just saying.

I did own a race a 401 Gremlin back in the day. Called the "Road Toad".. Only car back in thee day, made on the planet that could take N50 on centerlines bone stock. LOL.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Try to keep up. The point was if you go by magazine times. Or some random guys forum times only. Like hotlap does. As your arguement for everything. You better stay on the side lines. And enjoy your car for what it is. Cause a guy like me in the inferior car. Will hurt your feelings. Talking silly on a forum is easy. Backing it up on the street or at the track. Not so much. Aint that right hoplap tell him about your 11 second SS..

hotlap took his 16 SS to the drags and ran faster stock than any of the magazines. And I’m no racer.

Weather changed to winter before the new 18 was broken in. Then again, it’s a manual that I bought as an enjoyably driver so I’m not sure I’ll bother. It doesn’t matter ...the magazines show it 4 tenths faster than a M6 GT.

Try to keep up

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Stock has gotten so good that the negatives of modifying make it unattractive. Many of us have had experience with changing one aspect only to end up with a negative impact in another. In the end the drivability and enjoyment are gone

The OEs in our segment are now delivering 455-485 HP base cars and 650-797 HP premium. Nice baseline for a street car with a warranty so most won’t screw with it IMO.

Magazine review show us how well the manufacturers integrate the entire package. Chevy offers a well intergrated car emphasizing power and handling that is the class of the segment. Dodge is brute force and comfort. Mustang is a series of compromises made to appeal broadly to a non performance oriented buyers.

Anyway... I think it takes a lot more skill to drive a stock car fast than competing with cubic dollars spent while destroying the overall usefulness of the car.

Agree with your first two paragraphs. I'm keeping my GT stock until my extended warranty runs out in 2024.

Regarding the bolded sentence: The '18 GT PP2 would like to disagree, as does the GT350/350R, and the '20 GT500 when it's finally on the streets/tracks. Heck, my '18 GT PP1 w/ MagneRide and A10 is every bit as awesome as I could have hoped for on the street as I don't take it to the track. I'll never race a SS 1LE on a track. On the street, my PP1 is just as capable because you can't push it hard anyway. I rarely have to give even more than 1/2 throttle for passing, accelerating into traffic, etc. And that's on the bone stock engine. If I go more than 1/2 throttle it's just for fun. I also don't need 900+ hp in my daily driver like some folks want. I admit I wouldn't mind 550-600 hp though .

If you mean compromises as in better visibility, a bit more hp, better sounding engine, larger trunk, better safety tech., and much better looks (subjective, of course) and nicer interior (subjective again) and slightly more usable backseats - which I need since I have kids...then, I guess. Those details were what turned me onto the '18 GT after being a die hard Chevy guy my entire life.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by hotlap

hotlap took his 16 SS to the drags and ran faster stock than any of the magazines. And I’m no racer. Weather changed to winter before the new 18 was broken in.

Try to keep up

Come on man your the biggest 11 second SS cheer leader on this sight. But your never got close. Sad. Maybe you can run a low 12 in the new hotwheels car.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Spring is coming soon. Pick a road course. Ill meet you there. Like I said talking on a forum dont mean anything. I already know your a lousy drag racer. But Id bet. I could out drive you on a road course also. It sucks when ya live in the same state as the guy your talkin at. According to you and hotlap. You have the superior car. Can you actually prove that is the question? And my point about the venc racers raises its ugly head. Bench racers talk. Racers show up!

"Talk on a forum don't mean anything"...yet that's exactly what you're doing. LOL!!

Tell you what, go get yourself a ZL1 or a Hellcat and then we'll race. Or go get one of these new GT500s coming out and we'll race.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

"Talk on a forum don't mean anything"...yet that's exactly what you're doing. LOL!!

Tell you what, go get yourself a ZL1 or a Hellcat and then we'll race. Or go get one of these new GT500s coming out and we'll race.

I dont need a ZL1 or hellcat to beat you. A plain old GT is more than enough. But I got the exact answer I was expecting. A bench racers answer!

[oldman]

man, you still posting, seriously, that car is too ugly, it does interfere with me being able to read any thread on this forum, cause my eyes just jump to a REALLY hideous car. It is like have a bugger hanging from your nose. Please, change the picture because it is really hurting me. That is such the ugly car.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

"Talk on a forum don't mean anything"...yet that's exactly what you're doing. LOL!!

Tell you what, go get yourself a ZL1 or a Hellcat and then we'll race. Or go get one of these new GT500s coming out and we'll race.

Or anything that is good looking, my god, that car is so ugly, I don't know the fake hood vents, side vents just send my mind into a stupid state. Please make it stop. Why would anybody put that UGLY car as a picture in a signature? Come now if you really had enough money (I don't) to buy a GT 500, you would not be racing a car that ugly! Please stop it. Your ancient UGLY, like so UGLY who cares if it in the 9s UGLY, shows that you are talking smack about stuff you don't got the bucks to own. Me, I can't either maybe in 5 years with the last kid through med school. But really? OMG, what is a 9 second Mustang of that body style worth, like less than my supercharger.... OMG, please stop already.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

I dont need a ZL1 or hellcat to beat you. A plain old GT is more than enough. But I got the exact answer I was expecting. A bench racers answer!

Inferiority complex gettin the best of you again? LOL!! I have nothing to gain by racing some kid in a base model $27K GT that's been stripped down and modded to hell and back. And I have nothing to prove. If you did beat me, I could drop $5K, $10K, $20K into my car and return and stomp that thing into the ground. What does it prove and what do I have to gain from that? LOL!! And what do I have to gain from building a GT and racing you? LOL! You wanna race me, then buy a car on my level and let's do it. But we all know the likelihood of that happening.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

I dont need a ZL1 or hellcat to beat you. A plain old GT is more than enough. But I got the exact answer I was expecting. A bench racers answer!

No that aint "plain", that car is ugly, sad ugly, terrible. I mean I've seen "plain" cars in my life, say a 1972 Nova is "plain", but please you are have pictured the ugliest of ugly pony car ever made, even the 1978 Mustang Mach 1 is better looking (actually kind of like that one to tell you the truth). In fact there is only ONE pony car ever made uglier, and here it is. Don't barf, as you can tell by my reaction to your said "performance car".
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/1981-D...ureId=22528405

I don't know might have to go with the Challanger as better looking.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by oldman

Or anything that is good looking, my god, that car is so ugly, I don't know the fake hood vents, side vents just send my mind into a stupid state. Please make it stop. Why would anybody put that UGLY car as a picture in a signature? Come now if you really had enough money (I don't) to buy a GT 500, you would not be racing a car that ugly! Please stop it. Your ancient UGLY, like so UGLY who cares if it in the 9s UGLY, shows that you are talking smack about stuff you don't got the bucks to own. Me, I can't either maybe in 5 years with the last kid through med school. But really? OMG, what is a 9 second Mustang of that body style worth, like less than my supercharger.... OMG, please stop already.

He has something to prove. I don't care about his old race-only GT that can only be driven in the Spring and Summer. My cars are DD year round. And we all know that I could build a GT if I wanted. Or buy a built one. Funny thing is that he's talking about racing my cars in his highly modded GT...which kinda proves exactly how fast my cars really are. The only chance he'd have against a stock Hellcat or ZL1 is in a highly modded GT. Like I said before, a few thousand in mods on the HC and I'd destroy him in the quarter mile while having a fully optioned DD. A bit of seat time in the ZL1 and I'd destroy him on a track and again, I'd be in a fully optioned DD. In both cases his full race seasonal GT that's been gutted and stripped down would get embarrassed by a heavy fully loaded car that can be driven year round.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Come on man your the biggest 11 second SS cheer leader on this sight. But your never got close. Sad. Maybe you can run a low 12 in the new hotwheels car.

Don't you get it? The Shelby's NUMBER ONE selling point is it is good looking. Your car is UGLY. NOBODY cares how fast an ugly car is.