[davef]

Originally Posted by Cobrasvt

Best option package I have ever purchased.

This.

[RCF]

Originally Posted by R3ctivision

If I was not tracking my car I would not get a 1LE, the handling and braking upgrades are a waste if you don't extract their performance. And you can't even get close to the SS limits on the public roads anyway.

The 1LE is a LOT stiffer and the tires are much noisier, more expensive, and wear out quickly. The tires will fling rocks everywhere.

You don't need the eLSD, cooling upgrades, or BBK if you don't track the car.

Then again, if I didn't track my car, I wouldn't buy a fast sports car at all, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Slow and light cars are more fun on public roads.

Agree with this. I looked at both, but I will never track mine. So I preferred the luxury features of the 2SS over the 1LE. Also preferred an automatic over the manual - lots of traffic here! I also wasn’t a fan of the Recaros for normal driving.

Also, keep seeing it mentioned, I don’t think there are any cooling upgrades over the 1SS or 2SS. Differential cooler is different but they aren’t the same differential. All SS’s have the oil, transmission, and differential coolers.

[Boosted_ST]

It's interesting to note that many folks prefer the 1LE but a few pragmatic ones have mentioned that it may not be worth it.

I love the 1LE's looks, the black hood, and the recaros. The tires would be very expensive to replace as this will be my daily driver.

Still haven't decided!

[Tuner2muscle]

Anyone have LS 1LE? was looking at the 2LT 1LE but the price diff was significant and the only thing that mattered to me that I'm not getting in the LS is the PDR....

[Martinjlm]

That’s one of the cool things about Camaros (and Mustangs and even Challengers), there’s a combination for just about everybody. Have to think about what your most likely uses and gotta have options are. For me, the gotta have features were V8, convertible, and HUD

If you’re gonna track the car, the decision is easy. Get a 1LE and keep it moving. That or get a ZL1. For me, the most important element was I wanted a convertible. So that narrowed it down to SS or ZL1. At the time I didn’t expect I’d track the car much, if at all. Even though I have tracked it, I’m still good with not going for the 1LE. The 2SS has more capability than I’m likely to get out of it.

If I was in the OP’s shoes, trying to decide on a coupe...2SS or 1LE, and I was certain I wouldn’t track it, I’d get a 2SS, maybe change the wheels out to the 1LE wheels. I’d keep the 2SS tires, though. I probably wouldn’t bother wrapping the hood. Stripes or hash marks, maybe. But that’s just me. Everybody’s different, and I’m sure there is a combination that just sings to the OP.

[Boost Creep]

Biggest problem I have so far, is the suspension is so tight, pulling into my driveway the car will leave the right rear wheel up in the air as it transitions from the street up the driveway ramp across the public sidewalk. Time it wrong and the eLSd tries to lock up in mid air and it sounds like the diff is exploding. Got to get off the gas as the tire lifts up and have enough momentum to keep going and still slow enough not to scrape.

I've only pulled in four times so far so it's still a learning experience.

[srcstc]

Originally Posted by Boosted_ST

It's interesting to note that many folks prefer the 1LE but a few pragmatic ones have mentioned that it may not be worth it.

I love the 1LE's looks, the black hood, and the recaros. The tires would be very expensive to replace as this will be my daily driver.

Still haven't decided!

The 1LE is very popular but you're gonna use it as a DD you don't need the 1LE. A 1SS or 2SS is more than capable on the street.


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[soloknight6]

1LE PROS: Does it all.

1LE CONS: #%$&ING ROCK CHIPS!!!

[Kise]

Originally Posted by R3ctivision

If I was not tracking my car I would not get a 1LE, the handling and braking upgrades are a waste if you don't extract their performance. And you can't even get close to the SS limits on the public roads anyway.

The 1LE is a LOT stiffer and the tires are much noisier, more expensive, and wear out quickly. The tires will fling rocks everywhere.

You don't need the eLSD, cooling upgrades, or BBK if you don't track the car.

Then again, if I didn't track my car, I wouldn't buy a fast sports car at all, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Slow and light cars are more fun on public roads.

this.
most people with 1les haven't owned a non 1le vice versa to noticeably experience the pros and cons. really there is only a slim amount of cons.

I have a 16 2ss and a zl1 1le (test drove a ss 1le before hand) and I have to say the tires are ungodly expensive compared to others.
I have about 17k miles on my 2ss with the tires that came with and I take traction control off all the time and burn them. still plenty of tread.

both the 2ss and 1le has TERRIBLE brake dust.

the suspension is really firm compared to the 2ss but pulling in my driveways both of them have a tire lifted for a split second due to the incline and angle and the stiffness of the alpha.

another con for myself is that i prefer an automatic when daily driving especially with the medium traffic i encounter.

the cosmetic features is a major plus. if you can find a good deal, eat it up all day but for around 7k more for something you wont really use in street use is iffy in my opinion.

in the end of the day choose something you wont regret!
i wanted a zl1 less than 4 months after i got my 2ss lol.

[Mountain]

I just switched over to the SS 1LE camp from a 1SS.

As some have mentioned, the pros and cons will depend on what you want out of the car.

For me, I wanted an elevated amount of track aptitude with a warranty.

I will say this, going from my 1SS to the SS 1LE, I was not expecting that much of a difference in the feel of the car, outside the effects of wider tires and the suspension being a little stiffer:

The SS 1LE feels like a different car to me than my 1SS. I was really taken right off the bat:

-Yes, the tires are wider, so the vehicle/steering follows road imperfections more. Nature of the beast with wide tires.
-The suspension is notably stiffer. Actually, I ride around in Touring when just daily driving. I feel anything outside of that is harsh for Mid-West crap roads. I could (and have in other cars in the past) deal with the stiffer settings, but I have a choice. Not complaining here; just stating what is what.
-The car is overall more connected. It is another level above the SS. This is due to the changes in busing stiffness, bushings replaced with spherical joins, higher spring rates, the tires and MRC calibration. Moreover, you can feel the suspension working more.
-The shorter-throw shifter is a marginal shortening, but I feel it is perfect. Nice little touch.
-The Recaros are fantastic. Very comfortable (for athleticlly-built folks), have great support and look very nice.
-The brakes are a bit more touchy, but not in a negative way. They also definitely feel stronger than the SS 4-pistons when you get on them.

On a separate note, the HUD is so nice to have. I didn't think I would care much, but it is very useful.

Overall, yes, the SS 1LE is a fantastic upgrade for someone like likes performance driving. It is WELL worth it. However, if you are not into performance driving (less drag racing), you will be just fine and completely happy with the SS capabilities - they are quite high in itself.

[Ryephile]

Congrats Mountain on making the switch!

[Boost Creep]

One of the things I wanted is the HUD, but this time of year I find myself turning it off at night as it is pothole season and the HUD hides the potholes in the dark.


Things I was looking for in a new Camaro were leather, and Recaros were a bonus, HUD would be nice, wanted big brakes and tires, MRC and the NPP so the different modes actually changed things. Manual transmission with a V8, and the 1LE NLS programming is way better than 1-2SS programming in my mind.

The 1LE is overkill for the street, but that's exactly what I wanted. If I could have built a car it would have been the 1LE except with long tube headers, and maybe toss in a CD player as I'm old.

[Kgoeb]

Originally Posted by soloknight6

1LE PROS: Does it all.

1LE CONS: #%$&ING ROCK CHIPS!!!

I would tend to concur wholeheartedly with this statement...

[mlee]

Only Con is not Auto Trans