[Atlas24601]

Originally Posted by MATTY-1LE

I loooooove the fact this car does not have cylinder deactivation, nor a 7 speed stick, nor has the idle shut off, nor any other feature of the sort, particularly why i bought this car. A pure drivers dream come true

I jumped on a good deal for my 2018 because I loved the 6 speed TR6060 in it and disliked the 7 speed TR6070 that the 2019 was then rumored to receive. Even though the 2019 didnt end up with the 7 speed I dodged a bullet in that I like most people ended up liking the 2018 looks far better anyways.

[Atlas24601]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

Only the automatic equipped SS Camaro has cylinder deactivation, no manual trans SS has the AFM.

I have nearly 7500 miles on my car and all eight cylinders fired every one of those miles.

We may have the AFM hardware, but not the software.

Not saying youre wrong. Im definitely not an authority on the gen 5 small block or any motor for that matter. I sent TSP a Facebook IM asking for clarification and will post here their response.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by artey34

Mine is a 2SS 1LE so not many luxury complaints on it. I just wish there was more storage inside. The recaros are too tight to keep a wallet in my pocket, no pace to keep sunglasses and my carry pistol barely fits in the glove box with the manual. Even my phone on an angle in the center console is a squeeze.

Wouldnt have gotten any other car!

I haven't had my wallet in my back pocket in any of my fun cars in over a decade. Didn't even try with the Recaros.
My sunglasses go in the cubby where the 2SS has the wireless phone charger at the back of the console.

Carry piece stays in the Maxpedition bag.

Center console lid is absurd and the console space is a joke. It holds my wallet and garage door opener.

[Boost Creep]

Not saying youre wrong. Im definitely not an authority on the gen 5 small block or any motor for that matter. I sent TSP a Facebook IM asking for clarification and will post here their response.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447811

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434334

And here, right from GM, dated May 2015.

Originally Posted by GM Press release

Camaro SS is powered by the 6.2L LT1 V-8 engine introduced on the Corvette Stingray. About 20 percent of the components are specific for the Camaro’s architecture, including new, tubular “tri-Y”-type exhaust manifolds. It also offers advanced technologies such as variable valve timing, direct injection and Active Fuel Management (on automatic-equipped models) to help balance efficiency and performance. Output is SAE-certified at 455 horsepower (339 kW) and 455 lb-ft of torque (617 Nm), making it the most-powerful Camaro SS ever.

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...16-camaro.html

[Atlas24601]

Originally Posted by artey34

Mine is a 2SS 1LE so not many luxury complaints on it. I just wish there was more storage inside. The recaros are too tight to keep a wallet in my pocket, no pace to keep sunglasses and my carry pistol barely fits in the glove box with the manual. Even my phone on an angle in the center console is a squeeze.

Wouldnt have gotten any other car!

I use a cell phone mount from Proclip with their adjustable holder. https://www.proclipusa.com/product/8...-console-mount

Wallet and keys either go in the tub behind the too small center console or in an empty cup holder. I normally just pocket carry a Ruger LCP 2 so thats not normally an issue for me. Off base I normally keep a Sig P226 in the kangaroo pocket behind the pasenger seat. Easy to grab in a hurry there.

[Atlas24601]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447811

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434334

And here, right from GM, dated May 2015.



https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...16-camaro.html

Good info! Thanks! Sorry for spreading misinformation. I thought it came from a good source. Almost everything Ive heard about TSP has been good. They must have just missed the specific model I was talking about.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Atlas24601

Good info! Thanks! Sorry for spreading misinformation. I thought it came from a good source. Almost everything Ive heard about TSP has been good. They must have just missed the specific model I was talking about.

They know their s#!t and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase an engine built by them, but they probably don't know every option on every model, and every year.

[Atlas24601]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

They know their s#!t and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase an engine built by them, but they probably don't know every option on every model, and every year.

Ya, probably. They just replied standing by their original assertion that it did have AFM/DOD. I sent them your link to the GM press release and am waiting to hear back. This is probably just confusion caused by me over the difference between the hardware in the motor and the software in the car that controls it as someone mentioned here. I did originally message them talking about engine hardware afterall.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Atlas24601

Ya, probably. They just replied standing by their original assertion that it did have AFM/DOD. I sent them your link to the GM press release and am waiting to hear back. This is probably just confusion caused by me over the difference between the hardware in the motor and the software in the car that controls it as someone mentioned here. I did originally message them talking about engine hardware afterall.

Might be easier to talk with them on the phone. There can be a lost in translation with emails.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Atlas24601

Ya, probably. They just replied standing by their original assertion that it did have AFM/DOD. I sent them your link to the GM press release and am waiting to hear back. This is probably just confusion caused by me over the difference between the hardware in the motor and the software in the car that controls it as someone mentioned here. I did originally message them talking about engine hardware afterall.

They are right, the LT1 has AFM.
It is just not utilized in the M6 equipped Camaro.

[Atlas24601]

TSP is standing by their assertion that the car does have AFM/DOD. Their quote "Every gm LT engine has AFM and vvt. Its not an argument. Whether its dry sump or wet or 5.3 or 6.0 or l86 6.2 or lt1 6.2 Its not an option Even the lt4 has it In 2019 they are possibly making it an option but not 2014-2018"

They supplied this article as evidence...

http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-engines/lt1/

I then asked this... "Is it possible that the motor has the hardware but doesnt use it due to the software that controls it in the 2016-2018 SS 1LE?" I posted a link to this thread and asked them to join in thinking they were on this forum.

To which they replied... "No its not. They all use it. It can be turned off via a tune but they all use it. We are not a member of that page."

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

They are right, the LT1 has AFM.
It is just not utilized in the M6 equipped Camaro.

^^ THIS

Take it from actual owners of the SS 1LE, the SS 1LE is manual only for 2017-18 and it does NOT have that function (software wise)

Not sure why, maybe it doesn't mate well with the M6, or maybe it was a performance decision, no clue.

[Atlas24601]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

^^ THIS

Take it from actual owners of the SS 1LE, the SS 1LE is manual only for 2017-18 and it does NOT have that function (software wise)

Not sure why, maybe it doesn't mate well with the M6, or maybe it was a performance decision, no clue.

The GM factory source posted above says that it doesnt use it so thats what Im believing. It makes some sense that the manual trans wouldnt use it. DOD/AFM doesnt know when the human driver is going to shift and change up the RPMs. Maybe that and the auto rev match feature didnt play nice together either. Im just speculating though.

[rootus]

My current annoyance list, 9K miles in:

1. The AFM hardware and the associated sounds (I assume, could be something else) that I hear from it. Or whatever makes the 'ringing' sound near idle under power.

2. Skip-shift, until I eliminated it a few weeks back, this got pretty high on my shitlist

3. Clutch chatter, even if it's normal from a dual plate clutch

4. Some sort of faint chirping sound coming into the interior from the engine bay that I can hear with the windows up that drives me batty once I heard it for the first time. Can't unhear it now.

5. HUD basically disappears with polarized sunglasses; not sure if that can be fixed with a better LCD or if it's an artifact of reflecting it off the glass

6. I still don't care for the electric parking brake

7. On some really smooth roads I still notice the grumble from the driveline on accel/decel

Mostly minor nitpicks, to be honest. I'm happy with the car.