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Old 09-04-2018, 03:22 PM   #99
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Quite a list... There is no Cylinder de-activation on the V8/1LE...
The only Gen 5 small block motor from GM that doesnt have cylinder deactivation is the LT5 in the Corvette ZR1.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:29 PM   #100
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The only Gen 5 small block motor from GM that doesnt have cylinder deactivation is the LT5 in the Corvette ZR1.
Not a feature on the M6 SS 1LE. Maybe the motor is capable of it, but it not avail on the M6 SS 1LE
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:32 PM   #101
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Wants a Prius with a Hemi.


SS1LE with ZL1 drivetrain, is a ZL1.
So they did make that for you.
Like I said, LOTS of nitpicking. An 87 octane tune from the factory would be better for guys like me who use it as a daily driver and not a track toy. It really wouldnt lose that much hp. You can do some research on how much hp is picked up by increasing compression ratio. Plenty of car/engine magazines have done this testing over the years.

They gave it the magnetic ride control and eLSD from the ZL1. Im wishing they also threw in the driveshaft/halfshafts, uprated tr6060 trans, and rotating assembly/high flow injectors in the engine. Of those requests the only one I think is unreasonable is the engine work since the whole deal with the 1LE is the same engine as the model it shares the name with but with assorted uprated parts from the model above.

I was pretty much just making a list of how I would build my "perfect" Camaro from the factory if I got to be in charge of design and tell the bean counters to go f themselves. Im under no illusion that my requests are realistic. I do love the car as it is. I did buy one afterall...
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:36 PM   #102
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Like I said, LOTS of nitpicking. An 87 octane tune from the factory would be better for guys like me who use it as a daily driver and not a track toy. It really wouldnt lose that much hp. You can do some research on how much hp is picked up by increasing compression ratio. Plenty of car/engine magazines have done this testing over the years.

They gave it the magnetic ride control and eLSD from the ZL1. Im wishing they also threw in the driveshaft/halfshafts, uprated tr6060 trans, and rotating assembly/high flow injectors in the engine. Of those requests the only one I think is unreasonable is the engine work since the whole deal with the 1LE is the same engine as the model it shares the name with but with assorted uprated parts from the model above.

I was pretty much just making a list of how I would build my "perfect" Camaro from the factory if I got to be in charge of design and tell the bean counters to go f themselves. Im under no illusion that my requests are realistic. I do love the car as it is. I did buy one afterall...
You must be talking about the standard SS or lower trim on the tranny right? From my knowledge, the M6 is the same in the SS 1LE, ZL1, and ZL1 1LE.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:37 PM   #103
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Not a feature on the M6 SS 1LE. Maybe the motor is capable of it, but it not avail on the M6 SS 1LE
Can you provide any source that says this? Ive been wrong plenty of times before in my life but I was pretty sure the LT1 motor in the SS 1LE both has and uses cylinder deactivation even if it only uses that feature in tour mode.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:39 PM   #104
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You must be talking about the standard SS or lower trim on the tranny right? From my knowledge, the M6 is the same in the SS 1LE, ZL1, and ZL1 1LE.
In the owners manual and on this forum it has been discussed before that the TR6060 is only rated for 450hp/450tq in the SS 1LE. Tremec apparently makes different versions of it with different hardware rated for different outputs. Though plenty of people have pushed it in this application without problems.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:40 PM   #105
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Can you provide any source that says this? Ive been wrong plenty of times before in my life but I was pretty sure the LT1 motor in the SS 1LE both has and uses cylinder deactivation even if it only uses that feature in tour mode.
Only the automatic SS gets cylinder deactivation. We have the lifters, which people like to ditch during a cam swap, but not the additional hardware and electronics to make it work on our cars.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:41 PM   #106
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Can you provide any source that says this? Ive been wrong plenty of times before in my life but I was pretty sure the LT1 motor in the SS 1LE both has and uses cylinder deactivation even if it only uses that feature in tour mode.
I have no official source, except for the fact of me owning a M6 SS 1LE, and I am telling you , it does NOT have cylinder deactivation.

The auto's have the option, but at least on the SS 1LE, it does not.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:50 PM   #107
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I have no official source, except for the fact of me owning a M6 SS 1LE, and I am telling you , it does NOT have cylinder deactivation.

The auto's have the option, but at least on the SS 1LE, it does not.
If there is nothing from GM stating that the LT1 in the SS 1LE lacks cylinder deactivation then what makes you think it doesnt have it just like every other LT1 powered motor?

When I was reaching out to Texas Speed a couple of months ago to go over the mods I wish to purchase from them they went over the parts that would be best for my purposes and discussed Displacment On Demand (DOD)/cylinder deactivation. I dont have the phot hosting acounts to post screenshots of that convo here unfotunately.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:52 PM   #108
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I have no official source, except for the fact of me owning a M6 SS 1LE, and I am telling you , it does NOT have cylinder deactivation.

The auto's have the option, but at least on the SS 1LE, it does not.
Here is what I sent to TSP...

"Hey, I thinking of doing some mods to my gen 6 Camaro SS 1LE early next year. Nothing too crazy. The goal would be to stay n/a, add maybe 100ish hp, and maintain as close to factory street manners as possible. Here's the list of stuff I was thinking of doing...

Rotofab cold air intake, ported factory throttle body and intake manifold, Texas Speed CNC cylinder head and camshaft package (SV camshaft), ATI 10% underdrive damper pulley, secondary catalytic converters removed, other necessary parts/installation/tuning.

Would that get me to my goal? How much would that cost to have it done through yall? I love cars/motors but am not quite knowledgeable enough to understand all the options in your camshaft package too."


And their reply which acknowleges that afm/dod is a thing on the SS 1LE...

"We do not do installs so the price on the web with the options you choose is it. Shipping is extra.
Cam kit youll need the 7.850 pushrods, afm/dod delete with 8 lifters, and the cam phaser the rest leave as is."
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:58 PM   #109
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Here is what I sent to TSP...

"Hey, I thinking of doing some mods to my gen 6 Camaro SS 1LE early next year. Nothing too crazy. The goal would be to stay n/a, add maybe 100ish hp, and maintain as close to factory street manners as possible. Here's the list of stuff I was thinking of doing...

Rotofab cold air intake, ported factory throttle body and intake manifold, Texas Speed CNC cylinder head and camshaft package (SV camshaft), ATI 10% underdrive damper pulley, secondary catalytic converters removed, other necessary parts/installation/tuning.

Would that get me to my goal? How much would that cost to have it done through yall? I love cars/motors but am not quite knowledgeable enough to understand all the options in your camshaft package too."


And their reply which acknowleges that afm/dod is a thing on the SS 1LE...

"We do not do installs so the price on the web with the options you choose is it. Shipping is extra.
Cam kit youll need the 7.850 pushrods, afm/dod delete with 8 lifters, and the cam phaser the rest leave as is."
The ZL1 with the auto has it, but the SS 1LE, ZL1 1LE, and ZL1 M6 do not.

Anywho, you can do more research if you want.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:59 PM   #110
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I loooooove the fact this car does not have cylinder deactivation, nor a 7 speed stick, nor has the idle shut off, nor any other feature of the sort, particularly why i bought this car. A pure drivers dream come true
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Old 09-04-2018, 04:01 PM   #111
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The ZL1 with the auto has it, but the SS 1LE, ZL1 1LE, and ZL1 M6 do not.

Anywho, you can do more research if you want.
Im definitely not knowlegable enough to be considered an authority on it. I guess its possible TSP missed that I was talking about the SS 1LE model. Ill reach back out to them for clarification and post here what they say.
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Old 09-04-2018, 04:05 PM   #112
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Only the automatic equipped SS Camaro has cylinder deactivation, no manual trans SS has the AFM.

I have nearly 7500 miles on my car and all eight cylinders fired every one of those miles.

We may have the AFM hardware, but not the software.
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