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2SS, but same...
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Several people say it should be ok with a tuned vehicle. the BCM is independent of the ECM and TCM.
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Can anyone in the community provide concrete evidence about the functionality of GM's security update?
Is the update safe and effective? While we know the OBD port vulnerability extends across GM's entire lineup - including cars, SUVs and trucks under the Chevrolet, GMC, and Cadillac brands - there are still unanswered questions. Has GM implemented a company-wide recall to address this security weakness? More importantly, what verification exists to confirm that their software solution actually works and won't cause other issues? |
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If you're uncertain of whatever "security" update is being done, then just don't get it done.
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Let me rephrase to make it clearer.
I am reaching out to the community for evidence: Has anyone confirmed that this software update actually prevents key programming? I don't believe the update is related to OBD port key programming capabilities. If key programming through the OBD port was the real issue, GM would have been required to issue a fleet-wide recall. Since we can eliminate key programming as the purpose of the software update, we should explore other possibilities for what the software update actually does, if GM won't disclose. Smells to me. Without GM providing transparency about the update's purpose, there's no obligation to install it. GM can't deny warranty claims based on a software update they haven't officially linked to any warranty conditions. Personally, it's reasonable to wait for clear information about the update's purpose and effects before proceeding. |
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And how are you jumping to conclusion that this update is NOT the fix for the OBD Key Programming (apparently "Non") issue??? Many people have said their service department has said that the update provides "Important Security Enhancements", sounds like finally the fix for the ("Non") issue that has had everyone running scared for the past 2 years...
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My take on this is the same as 2SS Capt.
GM is likely providing the update to try to limit the lawsuits against them for cars being stolen via the OBD and software weakness. To my knowledge, it was Camaros that were, by far, the most stolen model. If they were to call it a recall and clearly state the problem being fixed, it would raise more attention from those whose cars were stolen and probably result in more law suits that GM would have to defend against. And not just Camaros. This way, they may just fix the problem for Camaros and leave all the other models untouched, which saves them $. With GM's current approach, they fix Camaros vulnerability quietly (they aren't admitting in writing that there is a vehicle security problem), and the lawsuit exposure is minimized from: 1) Current owners - their cars can no longer be stolen by the key copy technique 2) Past owners who had their cars stolen - GM has admitted nothing in writing about the OBD key problem, so less likely for them to see lawsuits (harder for plaintive to prove) |
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Can someone confirm if the GM software BCM recall update hardens/ensures the security of the OBD port when programming keys?
A simple yes or no with supporting evidence would be helpful. I'm looking for someone with direct experience with confirmed results after having the update to their Camaro. If this has not been tested yet, then we need to find the results. |
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Again, purely speculating here, but since the OBD theft issue involved an ability to immediately make a new key fob using an "all keys lost" function, if that's what the software update disables, it hopefully will not have an impact on unrelated OBD functionality like an AFM disabler...
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To reiterate, I will send my key guy out, at no charge, to meet anyone w/ the update to try an "all keys lost, new key program. You will need to meet near Lilburn/Norcross GA. If you want an extra key, I will do that at cost. Otherwise, I will get the update in a week or 2, and confirm on my car.
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Thank you TurboC3 for offering to investigate the recall! I apologize to the community if my previous response came across as demanding. While OBD key programming theft is a legitimate concern, I doubt it's the core issue here in the recall notice. If it were, and I hope I'm wrong, I really hope I'm wrong, we'd likely read about similar recalls across GM's lineup (Silverado's, Escalades, etc) plus GMAuthority would print something about it. Additionally, GM is unlikely to restrict legitimate locksmith OBD programming capabilities. We will find out soon, thanks to TurboC3. In the meantime, I've contacted my dealer, who has always been responsive and service oriented, to:
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