[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by ZLRob

Sounds like Gabe is going to need to make a road trip down to my area to do validation testing over there at Laguna Seca or Sonoma Raceway.

How 'bout it Gabe?

That would be RAD! Always wanted to go to Laguna Seca!

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by ZL1_1LE

Judging by how clean that car is and no rubber in the fender wells, I don't think it's the type of testing we're thinking of around the block and on the highway maybe?

You're not wrong... although I did spend alot of time cleaning the car for that photoshoot. Although the car only has 8,350 miles... she is not new.

My focus will be on street / 60-130 / drag and launch feedback... I will partner with one or two dedicated track clients to provide some track only perspective on a stock car and a modified car... thats where the ability to rebuild is going to come in clutch!

[bishopts]

Do the aftermarket ones just get away from the electrical control?

[Tay]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Do the aftermarket ones just get away from the electrical control?

ZL1 1LE's with DSSV are not electronic. So they are plug'n'play.

Standard ZL1s with Magneride would delete the electronic function and require simulators to avoid any error codes.

[rpaddicted]

Originally Posted by bishopts

$1700 list for each one. I'm glad i dont have that suspension.

And since I'm in France you can add 30% sales and custom tax + huge shipping costs

[rpaddicted]

Originally Posted by Tay

From Inertia's Instagram page:

https://www.instagram.com/inertialab...p/CvKT3v4OAbi/


As I said, Chris has worked on them before. Maybe he can help. Maybe he can't. It never hurts to ask.

Thanks, I've sent an email.


I still don't understand why these very expensive shocks can't be rebuilt easily. All major quality shock brands have rebuildable shocks.

[cdb95z28]

Originally Posted by rpaddicted

Thanks, I've sent an email.


I still don't understand why these very expensive shocks can't be rebuilt easily. All major quality shock brands have rebuildable shocks.

It's somewhat easy to swap springs on these, as done by Inertia Lab. But to rebuild, as in valving or camber plate repair, nobody is doing it. There are no individual parts from GM. I've dissected these front DSSVs. Aftermarket dampers most likely won't pass an OE validation for durability. That statement is comical in that it is pretty evident the Multimatics shouldn't have passed either.

-Noisy/loose camber plate to strut... there is a large nut keeping the ball stud tight to the strut insert assembly. The only way to access it is to disassmble the entire insert assembly. Doing this means the gas charge is lost. That loose nut to ball stud can have enough play that the gas charge is lost anyway. Also. sometimes it is not the large nut causing the noise. Where the ball sits within the camber plate there is a nylon bushing. Sometimes this wears out. There are no replacement parts.

-Noisy insert assembly. This can often be fixed by tightening the bottom nut. But there is also an internal nut on the other side of that visible nut that would need to be set correctly.

- Leaking grease. This is normal. There is grease within the DSSV struts for the strut insert movement. There is a breather on the strut that can vent excess grease. GM has a TSB on this. It was also common on the Gen5 Z/28 DSSVs.

[ZL1_1LE]

Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

That would be RAD! Always wanted to go to Laguna Seca!

Why don't you go there! That would be the best way to test these! Get some track miles on that car!

[Patriot Motorsports USA]

Originally Posted by ZL1_1LE

Why don't you go there! That would be the best way to test these! Get some track miles on that car!

Don't get Gabe in trouble... Laguna Seca is NOT a track for beginners on a Road Course. He would be better starting at Spring Mountain or Willow to learn, but then he'll have another group buy on APEX wheels and I could use more... cause he's gonna need a second set of tires, bigger brakes, three sets of springs with scales to set them up for these new shocks and two sets of brake pads! Better get on the simulator now!! No matter what you do with that gorgeously clean car, better call Hagerty and get track insurance!! Trust me... we just rebuilt our C8 and it was worth every penny at $650 to cover the nearly $30k in damages caused by a 140mph Ice-Mode into turn one at VIR and the grassy ramp to the wall!

If the goal is Drag Racing and Ride quality, the package offered by Strange Engineering would be a better setup.. With over 14,200 miles of the 34K on my ZLE being logged on Road Course tracks... I will never understand building a ZLE for drag racing when the base ZL1 is the perfect car for that.

RPAddicted... is there a tariff from Thailand to France? I travel there often and could ship something from there or bounce it from there since we have zero tariffs from the USA there at the moment.

Luckily I have not had a failure of my DSSV struts as I inspect them after each event or any time the car goes on the lift, checking the torque of the base nut always. As soon as I have a set to tear down, I have the fixture for rebuilding pressure tube struts and will do so when I take mine off the car.

[ZL1_1LE]

Damn that poor corvette! Did the wreck make those doors go vertical?! That looks hideous lol

Jokes aside thanks for the suggestion on the Strange Engineering ones, it's nice to see real world experience instead of 60-130 pulls or driving on rough roads on the 405 haha....any suggestion on a good all around coil over for road/drag scenarios?

Gabe are the cooling bits and pieces you sell and most of all the other parts you create track tested? Was just curious as I'm interested in a few of your products, but they look more cosmetic over function without any real world track data to speak of.

EDIT: Never mind your website states "Below are the results of our first street driving test. More high speed and track results to follow."

[Patriot Motorsports USA]

Originally Posted by ZL1_1LE

Damn that poor corvette! Did the wreck make those doors go vertical?! That looks hideous lol

Jokes aside thanks for the suggestion on the Strange Engineering ones, it's nice to see real world experience instead of 60-130 pulls or driving on rough roads on the 405 haha....any suggestion on a good all around coil over for road/drag scenarios?

Gabe are the cooling bits and pieces you sell and most of all the other parts you create track tested? Was just curious as I'm interested in a few of your products, but they look more cosmetic over function without any real world track data to speak of.

EDIT: Never mind your website states "Below are the results of our first street driving test. More high speed and track results to follow."

The Corvette started out as a show queen. LOL!! I hate them!

The 60-130 is great for drag racing only... real men start at 100 to 150! Who can hook up at 60mph??

The fastest drag cars I know run the Strange struts.

Check out the photo below and zoom it in... you will see the track miles wear on the car but the results speak for themselves. Logs show 14,200 miles on the track... results speak loud when the tests allow for 18 sessions, two drivers, two full days and not once did the toolbox open, all on one set of tires.

[rpaddicted]

I have an answer from Anze Suspension :



Hello xx

My name is xx and I work for Multimatic dealing with a lot of these requests. I unfortunately have bad news for you… Due to how these dampers were designed, the top cover is crimped to the body, so it is unable to be taken apart without destroying the damper. This unfortunately means there is no way to rebuild them without ruining the damper.

Sorry for the bad news, if it were up to me there would be some sort of solution but at the moment there isn’t really one. Sorry again for the bad news, please let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks!




So I guess it's clear they can't be rebuilt... Too bad.
Thanks everyone for the input

[ZLRob]

Originally Posted by rpaddicted

I have an answer from Anze Suspension :



Hello xx

My name is xx and I work for Multimatic dealing with a lot of these requests. I unfortunately have bad news for you… Due to how these dampers were designed, the top cover is crimped to the body, so it is unable to be taken apart without destroying the damper. This unfortunately means there is no way to rebuild them without ruining the damper.

Sorry for the bad news, if it were up to me there would be some sort of solution but at the moment there isn’t really one. Sorry again for the bad news, please let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks!




So I guess it's clear they can't be rebuilt... Too bad.
Thanks everyone for the input

That was 100% the most bone headed decision that Multimatic ever made. Not only do you lose short term business by not offering rebuildability, therefore parts sales, but you also lose long term business because no one is even going to give you a second thought over when it comes time to replace or upgrade their assemblies.

On another note, it's been known that these are not rebuildable for a while. Have you been living under a rock?

[ZL1_1LE]

Originally Posted by ZLRob

That was 100% the most bone headed decision that Multimatic ever made. Not only do you lose short term business by not offering rebuildability, therefore parts sales, but you also lose long term business because no one is even going to give you a second thought over when it comes time to replace or upgrade their assemblies.

On another note, it's been known that these are not rebuildable for a while. Have you been living under a rock?

I agree with the boneheaded move by Multimatic, but I bet they probably have bigger business then what the Camaro community is offering them.

Originally Posted by rpaddicted

So I guess it's clear they can't be rebuilt... Too bad.
Thanks everyone for the input

Just wait until SoCal drives his around the block for testing and buy those