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Old 10-18-2016, 04:51 AM   #15
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On top of that, if I had to guess, you're probably riding the brakes instead of getting on them hard. This causes excess heat that builds in the system. You need to be smooth but aggressive.

Staying on the brakes instead of hard on, then off, is actually harder on the braking system as it builds a lot of heat.
Have you ever heard of this little road called "Tail of the dragon"? It's hard on brakes. I've autocrossed and raced for years so I am a good friend of "smooth".

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Old 10-18-2016, 06:20 AM   #16
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Have you ever heard of this little road called "Tail of the dragon"? It's hard on brakes. I've autocrossed and raced for years so I am a good friend of "smooth".

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you say you have autocrossed and raced for years, yet didn't think to upgrade your brake fluid beforehand?
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:39 AM   #17
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Or to add the suggested brake ducts?
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:46 AM   #18
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but you say you have autocrossed and raced for years, yet didn't think to upgrade your brake fluid beforehand?
Oh, I did think of that but didn't seemed like a solution at the time. My last car was a 2016 Mustang GT and on the same road I never overheated the stock brakes but here I am now with Brembo's and heat issues. It's funny though, I had a 2013 Mustang GT with the Brembo package and those brakes sucked also.

My 2013 Charger SRT8, (heavy car), on the same road I can drive 10/10 and NEVER overheat the brakes....but it does have factory brake ducts.
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:47 AM   #19
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Or to add the suggested brake ducts?
That is in the plans. From research it looks like Chevy does not have a kit out yet for our cars so I'll be fabbing some up and I'll post pictures.
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That is in the plans. From research it looks like Chevy does not have a kit out yet for our cars so I'll be fabbing some up and I'll post pictures.
You have the full factory brake cooling kit that came in the trunk installed? Including the smaller dust shields? I know people tracking these cars at Sebring, and they have no issues with the brakes overheating or such. They both did a fluid upgrade, but still, it seems odd. I could see some fade, but nothing to the extremes you mention.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:18 AM   #21
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You have the full factory brake cooling kit that came in the trunk installed? Including the smaller dust shields? I know people tracking these cars at Sebring, and they have no issues with the brakes overheating or such. They both did a fluid upgrade, but still, it seems odd. I could see some fade, but nothing to the extremes you mention.
I'm going out to the car now to see if there is anything like that in my trunk. My car is a convertible so I have not look to hard in there. My car did some with the small air deflectors and I have seen someone post a video about bigger deflectors but have not found where I can buy them.
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I'm going out to the car now to see if there is anything like that in my trunk. My car is a convertible so I have not look to hard in there. My car did some with the small air deflectors and I have seen someone post a video about bigger deflectors but have not found where I can buy them.
The whole kit should have come in your trunk in a bag...if it's not there, tell your dealer you want it. That most likely will solve your issues...I would still do a fluid upgrade if you want to flog the car in the mountains a lot though...
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:34 AM   #23
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The whole kit should have come in your trunk in a bag...if it's not there, tell your dealer you want it. That most likely will solve your issues...I would still do a fluid upgrade if you want to flog the car in the mountains a lot though...
No goodies in the trunk. I'm going to call my guy at Hendrick today.

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Here's a good thread on this. Thanks SS 1LE!
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=445294
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Keep in mind, the convertible doesn't include all of the cooling upgrades of a standard camaro. I'll have to check, but the ducts may be one of the omitted items.
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Old 10-18-2016, 09:23 AM   #26
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Keep in mind, the convertible doesn't include all of the cooling upgrades of a standard camaro. I'll have to check, but the ducts may be one of the omitted items.
What do you mean by that. My car is a manual and has the diff cooler and other stuff on it as well as chassis bracing that the hard top cars do not have.

I can see those shields being omitted but my car does have some small ones on the front lower control arms. I don't have the flaps in front of the tires like I see on some SS cars that block the air to the wheels...

It's just crazy. If you are going to sell a 455hp car and market it as a sportscar with TRACK capability then why don't they just do proper brake cooling.

I have been reading post on other forums of guys saying that even base Corvette's have brake cooling issues with the stock brakes and if you are going to track them to do the Z51 upgrade.

I'm having flashbacks of Dodge Caravans that needed rotors every 7000 miles because they put tiny rotors on a vehicle that weighed to much for the brakes..... :(
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:31 PM   #27
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I have the answer to our brake cooling issues. My car is a vert. If you look at the grill in our cars on the far left and right you will notice that there are two blanks. If you remove the bolts holding the inner fender bolts and pull it down you can see behind the grill and notice that there are some clips that hold them in. So, I removed the clips and remove the blanks. Wow, a way to get cool air to the brakes. Now, the air is trapped in the the fender apron. I took a utility knofw and removed part of the apron so the air can get to and brake cooling deflector on the Control arm and now I have brake cooling. I also removed the brake backing plates just to be sure.

I'll work on getting pictures up to explain better.

I did some preliminary test and they seem to be working better. I'll hit the mountain brain next week and do further testing and report back.

Thank you Chevrolet for the Easter Egg!
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:04 AM   #28
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I've boiled my stock fluid in the mountains.
Damn, what'd Chevy put in these things from that factory, water?

With the track deflectors, no rotor shield and Motul, I've seen zero problems.

Im curious about these "blanks"... I'll have to check my car.
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