[Chadicus]

As I said previously in this thread, I am much more interested in the Mustang suspension and chassis changes. I think in past models this was obviously a focal point for GM and it really doesn't seem like it has been for Ford. I've never driven the GT350 so someone who has tell us how it compares handling wise.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

As I said previously in this thread, I am much more interested in the Mustang suspension and chassis changes. I think in past models this was obviously a focal point for GM and it really doesn't seem like it has been for Ford. I've never driven the GT350 so someone who has tell us how it compares handling wise.

People I know on LS1tech that are GM lovers their whole lives have driven the GT350 (not the R) and they love it, real drivers that. I personally love the looks of it and the stout manual trans but being a straight line guy I had no need for a $60,000 mustang which isn't idea l for the drag strip. I'd love to see what a bolt on GT350 with a ported cobra jet manifold on E85 and something like 4.56 gears can do on the strip but no one has gone this route yet that I've seen.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

People I know on LS1tech that are GM lovers their whole lives have driven the GT350 (not the R) and they love it, real drivers that. I personally love the looks of it and the stout manual trans but being a straight line guy I had no need for a $60,000 mustang which isn't idea l for the drag strip. I'd love to see what a bolt on GT350 with a ported cobra jet manifold on E85 and something like 4.56 gears can do on the strip but no one has gone this route yet that I've seen.

I like how it looks too. I've heard people love it as well. Would love to drive one and take it to the track

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Don't think he is mad, just highly skeptical. I think he has good reason to be. Like many of us (myself included) he owned an S550. The car has plenty of upsides but for people who care mostly about performance and quality the current Mustang falls short.

Panel gaps are inconsistent. Hood and drivetrain vibrations plague the car. Suspension even on PP is not suited for track, drag strip, or daily driving use. The stock tune causes the car to fall flat on its face after launch. The Getrag transmission is clunky and the auto shifts too slow.

Every time I see someone singing the praises of that car that someone is a guy who modified and fixed most of these issues in the aftermarket.

Perhaps you should go test drive a stock gen6 Camaro. Notice the lack of vibrations. The hood stays put. The car doesn't need to be modded to run low 12s. The 1LE and ZL1 are so good they have no legit competitor; especially at their price. Then you will know why we bailed on the Mustang. Until then you sound like the diehard Ford guy at the local Sonic braying like a donkey that all Chevys are crap because "reasons".

Exactly my point. But you can't tell this to a diehard Mustang boy. I've said it many times before, the GT is made so that you can have a nice car with a nice rumble and you can get it dirt cheap. You can add a catback and intake and roam around in a nice, reliable Muscle Car that sounds good and has a good amount of performance for anyone who isn't a junkie for HP. And if you're satisfied with high 12 to low 13 sec cars then you'll be pleased with it. But if you want it to be fast then you have to mod everything. And that is just to keep up with stock SRTs and SS Camaros. This Jack is talking out his ass. He knows good and well that if his car is as good as he wants us to believe then it is only because he had to mod everything on it.

Mustangs are made like shit. I owned one for over 10 years and I should have gotten rid of it after 1 year. My S550 GT wasn't much better. It had cool options. But I seriously had buyer's remorse before I even got it home. I had to dump over $2,000 in it before it started to feel strong. And I still had to do LTs and suspension mods and a good tire. And even when it was running strong none of the tuners at that time could get the tune right for the GT350 IM with the TB. So it had driveability issues. And it couldn't hook because the tires were garbage for brand new tires with less than 6000 miles on them and the axles were trash. I seriously would have had to dump a huge chunk of change into it and that would have been just to get it to hook and run good NA. If I boosted it that would have been another $8000. End of the day I would have spent ZL1 money on that car. So I ditched it. The only way you can make them fast for cheap is if you get a base model GT. But if you want options and some nice stuff on a brand new GT and wanna make it fast then you'll be spending well over $40K for the car and then at least around $15K for mods. And then you'll have to worry about the trans, the clutch, and other stuff. And forget the warranty. And none of this is exaggeration. I did the math and although I don't have those exact numbers of what it would have all came out to trust me, you might as well just buy a ZL1, Hellcat, GTR, or even a Z06.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

People I know on LS1tech that are GM lovers their whole lives have driven the GT350 (not the R) and they love it, real drivers that. I personally love the looks of it and the stout manual trans but being a straight line guy I had no need for a $60,000 mustang which isn't idea l for the drag strip. I'd love to see what a bolt on GT350 with a ported cobra jet manifold on E85 and something like 4.56 gears can do on the strip but no one has gone this route yet that I've seen.

Ls1tech huh

I been a member since 2004. I mostly frequent the srk section. If you like to talk ford and chevy and do some bickering it's the spot. It's not even moderated lol. Decent handful of ford crowd too

What's your screen name?

All I'll add about the reliability argument is that it's kind of early to make those statements on some of the builds. How many miles are on that gt350 at 1000 rwhp? Some have done 1000 rwhp SBE lt4 as well. But I'm not going to tell everyone it's safe yet. Because no one knows for certain yet. I'd say about 2 years/20 k miles and several track days is what it would take for me to trust it. And about a dozen examples doing it

[Sol4rfl4re]

See what I'm saying? There's no way anyone can take Blaqwhole seriously.

My car was 35xxx with x plan plus 1000 more in rebates.
4500 for Procharger kit
300 for BAP
250 for the tune (I already had the Lund Ngauge from before which was 400)
870ish for stainless power headers
500 to install the longtubes (which was done before the blower)
800 to install the blower kit
250 for eibach pro kit springs

Those are my cost numbers and mods. But I'm sure I will be called a liar. I didn't have to spend the money for install of the blower or longtubes but chose to in order to save time due to my work schedule.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Ls1tech huh

I been a member since 2004. I mostly frequent the srk section. If you like to talk ford and chevy and do some bickering it's the spot. It's not even moderated lol. Decent handful of ford crowd too

What's your screen name?

All I'll add about the reliability argument is that it's kind of early to make those statements on some of the builds. How many miles are on that gt350 at 1000 rwhp? Some have done 1000 rwhp SBE lt4 as well. But I'm not going to tell everyone it's safe yet. Because no one knows for certain yet. I'd say about 2 years/20 k miles and several track days is what it would take for me to trust it. And about a dozen examples doing it

Blkmach1, we've bickered before. I've been going back and forth with Zyborg and Hiocrew for a while now.

The guy who did 1030 with the Procharger has been doing it for a few months now, apparently enjoys the car quite a bit. Current "record" holder at 1056whp with the twins is fairly new and unknown, being turbo I don't doubt he turns it up and down on the fly as he wishes.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

Blkmach1, we've bickered before. I've been going back and forth with Zyborg and Hiocrew for a while now.

The guy who did 1030 with the Procharger has been doing it for a few months now, apparently enjoys the car quite a bit. Current "record" holder at 1056whp with the twins is fairly new and unknown, being turbo I don't doubt he turns it up and down on the fly as he wishes.

yep. You're not too bad. I've seen worse ford guys lol. Good luck with your car

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

yep. You're not too bad. I've seen worse ford guys lol. Good luck with your car

Thanks, you as well. On the fanboy scale I consider myself a lightweight.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Exactly my point. But you can't tell this to a diehard Mustang boy. I've said it many times before, the GT is made so that you can have a nice car with a nice rumble and you can get it dirt cheap. You can add a catback and intake and roam around in a nice, reliable Muscle Car that sounds good and has a good amount of performance for anyone who isn't a junkie for HP. And if you're satisfied with high 12 to low 13 sec cars then you'll be pleased with it. But if you want it to be fast then you have to mod everything. And that is just to keep up with stock SRTs and SS Camaros. This Jack is talking out his ass. He knows good and well that if his car is as good as he wants us to believe then it is only because he had to mod everything on it.

Mustangs are made like shit. I owned one for over 10 years and I should have gotten rid of it after 1 year. My S550 GT wasn't much better. It had cool options. But I seriously had buyer's remorse before I even got it home. I had to dump over $2,000 in it before it started to feel strong. And I still had to do LTs and suspension mods and a good tire. And even when it was running strong none of the tuners at that time could get the tune right for the GT350 IM with the TB. So it had driveability issues. And it couldn't hook because the tires were garbage for brand new tires with less than 6000 miles on them and the axles were trash. I seriously would have had to dump a huge chunk of change into it and that would have been just to get it to hook and run good NA. If I boosted it that would have been another $8000. End of the day I would have spent ZL1 money on that car. So I ditched it. The only way you can make them fast for cheap is if you get a base model GT. But if you want options and some nice stuff on a brand new GT and wanna make it fast then you'll be spending well over $40K for the car and then at least around $15K for mods. And then you'll have to worry about the trans, the clutch, and other stuff. And forget the warranty. And none of this is exaggeration. I did the math and although I don't have those exact numbers of what it would have all came out to trust me, you might as well just buy a ZL1, Hellcat, GTR, or even a Z06.

your bad at math. For $50k you can put together an S550 that will drag that Hellcat around any track on the planet... drag or road course. And it would drag all those cars down a drag strip.

are M6 Hellcats still spitting axles and driveshafts out at the track these days or did dodge fix that?
how bout that GTR class action launch control situation.
the LS7 sucked valves often enough to have owners threaten class action. Early LT4's had debris in the oil that killed motors

every car has issues. you should know, you own 2 that have had them.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

your bad at math. For $50k you can put together an S550 that will drag that Hellcat around any track on the planet... drag or road course. And it would drag all those cars down a drag strip.

Non of what he said it's an exaggeration because he said it wasn't. #facts. Lmao.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

your bad at math. For $50k you can put together an S550 that will drag that Hellcat around any track on the planet... drag or road course. And it would drag all those cars down a drag strip.

For 50k I could put together a 4th gen to dominate your s550. Or even an 88 iroc z lol

Guess I don't get the point of that argument. Not sure what it means or proves at all

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

For 50k I could put together a 4th gen to dominate your s550. Or even an 88 iroc z lol

Guess I don't get the point of that argument. Not sure what it means or proves at all

it was a direct rebuttal to what Blaqwhole posted...stop trying to muddy the waters

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

For 50k I could put together a 4th gen to dominate your s550. Or even an 88 iroc z lol

Guess I don't get the point of that argument. Not sure what it means or proves at all

The money argument really leads nowhere. The only aspect of the money part that mattered to me at the time I was looking was interest....0% financing was available for the mustang but not for the others. If I can save a few thousand on interest I will. If the camaro would've been 0% interest with rebates and the mustang 2.9% then I'd likely be in a camaro.