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Old 06-28-2017, 01:53 PM   #1
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Anyone running a wastegate or boost restrictor with their Procharger?

On my 02' Z06 I ran a boost restrictor on my P1 kit to limit it to 10psi and the car made great power. 632/570rw IIRC. The tq curve was nice and fat. Almost like a really big N/A stroker. But not as harsh as a PD blower. I can agree with the argument that running restrictor in the air filter could cause increased IAT temps due to friction and what not. I am not really buying the "over spinning" the blower argument. In my mind, what is the difference if the blower is designed to run a determined pulley size if we restrict the intake flow to it or bleed it off in the end. I know ECS kits are sent out with restrictors. I just installed and tuned one on a C7 the other day and it made a ton more tq down low than a non restricted Camaro we finished up earlier that day on the dyno. Both made equal hp though.

I was reading where a guy was welding a TiAL 55mm waste gate to the outlet side of the blower housing. He was running a 8lb spring and saw something like 80-100rwtq over the non waste gate blower set up at the same peak boost. I feel the waste gate may be the more appropriate way to limit the boost out put and could give you the leeway to adjust on the fly or the track given proper weather and fuel. No more pulley changes.

I also remember that the 3.85 pulley was about as small as you could go on the P1 with a 6 rib set up back in the day. What can we get down to now with the dedicated 8 rib drive? 3.70? What about over driving the crank pulley. With the cam lock system it should be pretty easy to run a larger lower pulley if the space permits. I know I am going to be bleeding off a bunch of boost with my H/C/E/IM/TB set up. I would be really happy to get the P1 to 10-12lbs of boost in the end.

750rw should get me to my goals.
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Old 06-28-2017, 02:03 PM   #2
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I had this thought as well. Pulley down to the 3.55 pulley (puts the P1 just under max rpm at 6500 engine speed) with a wastegate set for 8psi. ProCharger said the extra tq will destroy tires. That's kinda the objective. I haven't gotten to try it yet, especially since I just got a call saying they're locked out of my pcm while trying to adjust my tune.
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Old 06-28-2017, 02:07 PM   #3
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I had this thought as well. Pulley down to the 3.55 pulley (puts the P1 just under max rpm at 6500 engine speed) with a wastegate set for 8psi. ProCharger said the extra tq will destroy tires. That's kinda the objective. I haven't gotten to try it yet, especially since I just got a call saying they're locked out of my pcm while trying to adjust my tune.
With my drag pack and converter I am not worried about unused torque. Plus from a roll with proper traction tq is your friend. I plan on spinning the car to at least 7K so maybe a 3.60" pulley would make it? Not sure they even make that size.
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They have a huge list on their website. Might be a 3.6 or 3.65 pulley that will work. Once I figure out what the shop just did to my pcm, the pulley/wastegate will be next on the list for my M6 car.
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Old 06-28-2017, 02:20 PM   #5
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They have a huge list on their website. Might be a 3.6 or 3.65 pulley that will work. Once I figure out what the shop just did to my pcm, the pulley/wastegate will be next on the list for my M6 car.
Thanks, I have to get smart on this stuff. This build was no where on my agenda so I haven't put much thought or effort into it. I appreciate your responses. I hope they get your ECM figured out man. Sucks it is locked.

I think up front I will just make my own restrictor plate and work out the rest later.
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Old 06-28-2017, 06:57 PM   #6
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I had this thought as well.
I knew I remembered this coming up before

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489540
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Old 06-28-2017, 07:00 PM   #7
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Yea, I didn't have time to dig it out.
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I knew I remembered this coming up before

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489540
Thanks for the link. It has all been discussed before. Just trying to find one of the ten that left in on there and how it is all working out.

Plus you all should know by now that if there is a dead horse, I am going to beat the piss out of it. LOL.
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What? your gonna do a procharger?
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Plus you all should know by now that if there is a dead horse, I am going to beat the piss out of it. LOL.
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What? your gonna do a procharger?
Yes Sir, with a cam and ported MSD. My original post is a couple threads below this one.
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Yes Sir, with a cam and ported MSD. My original post is a couple threads below this one.
Question....were you referring to the ECS sc1500 w/novi? if so, it seems you were pretty impressed with the ECS system/numbers...why are you not going that route? Was there something you didn't like? I'm curious as that's the system I've been leaning towards.
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Question....were you referring to the ECS sc1500 w/novi? if so, it seems you were pretty impressed with the ECS system/numbers...why are you not going that route? Was there something you didn't like? I'm curious as that's the system I've been leaning towards.
I install and tune for different shops and people around my area. One place has been putting Prochargers on Gen6 Camaros, the other has been having me put ECS kits on C6's and 7's. I have not seen the ECS kit for the Camaro yet so I have no comment on it. The Procharger kit for the Camaro seems to be the easiest install and so far has had the best results that I know of. I would have to talk to Chris or Doug at ECS and see what their system is producing on the dyno and at the track. They are great guys to deal with and are always there when I have a question and are a help in every way possible. I am sure ECS will catch on and be a neck and neck competitor with Procharger as they have been since the dawn of the C5. The Novi 1500 will make it to 800rw I believe so that covers the P1 and D1. The 2500 covers down on the F series blowers. I have not really had any real personal interaction with the Procharger guys as of yet. I did PM "Procharger" on here twice in the past and he responded in a very timely manner. On was to a thread and the other was a question I had. "Procharger" is also very active on this forum and has provided a ton of very useful information to the masses. That in it's self is a very respectable quality. I guess it is shooters preference. Both are great company's with great results and track times to back up their products. I will continue to push either, install and tune both depending on the customers request until I find something that turns me off to one. I doubt that is going to happen though.

The reason why I ended up with a Procharger is laid out in this thread. There was no preference at all. A centrifugal S/C fit my build better than my LT4 and the Procharger happened to be what was offered.
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499713
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Thank you for the quick response. Sounds like you got a great deal. Hope it all goes smooth.
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