2017 Accident at track. Anyone here? - Page 3

KaBoom1701 · 05-29-2017, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kwav8r

It sucks to watch a beautiful machine get torn up, if the driver walks away the car did it's job.

Anyone calling the guy dumb/inexperienced/stupid without the facts is an ass. Unless you were in the car when it happened you have no idea what was going on so quit being a d-bag.

I agree that watching a nice car get totaled sucks.

I based on my comments on reply #7 when they said he was on bald tires due to excessive drag racing. He should have never been a track and could have not only hurt himself but someone else. I replace my tires at the slightest show of wear or sidewall damage. Expensive sport but you have to pay to play safe....

kwav8r · 05-30-2017, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I agree that watching a nice car get totaled sucks.

I based on my comments on reply #7 when they said he was on bald tires due to excessive drag racing. He should have never been a track and could have not only hurt himself but someone else. I replace my tires at the slightest show of wear or sidewall damage. Expensive sport but you have to pay to play safe....

I got ya, my point was no one really knows. Doubtless, lots of people have an idea or opinion but there are a lot of factors that go into accidents. I would reserve judgement until the dude came out and said "here's what happened".

newmoon · 05-30-2017, 08:08 AM

Very bad wreck good to see there is little damage around the driver's area, this could have been much worse. I hope he has the track insurance if not this will be an extremely expensive day.

Problem with these cars is that while they are capable of putting up monster times with a pro driver at the wheel, put a novice in the car with multiple laps and tire wear at this power level and this can be the result.

Squatch · 05-30-2017, 12:33 PM

Engine looks good! I want to drop it in my '69, bet it will fly with that LT4 in it!

glamcem · 05-30-2017, 02:08 PM

Turn 1 is a bit tricky at Pacific Raceways, I've seen other crashes there before. This is a high speed corner and if someone doesn't pay attention to the maintenance throttle it may result in a lift off oversteer and crash easily. This may or may not be the case here of course:

crunch527 · 05-30-2017, 02:16 PM

Everyone's desire to throw out speculation as truth is totally in line with the bullshit fake news and journalism trends in general these days...social media at its finest...makes wikipedia look like a modern day Britannica Encyclopedia...

On wait a minute, I read it on the internet therefore, it must be true...

KaBoom1701 · 05-30-2017, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crunch527

Everyone's desire to throw out speculation as truth is totally in line with the bullshit fake news and journalism trends in general these days...social media at its finest...makes wikipedia look like a modern day Britannica Encyclopedia...

On wait a minute, I read it on the internet therefore, it must be true...

Hey....I had a set of those...lol

nancygrl · 05-30-2017, 03:21 PM

Ouchies

jessrayo · 05-30-2017, 03:41 PM

Well, he took the entire front wheel off. That means he had to hit something solid. From watching some of that venue track video with all of the hard barriers on that track I would guess he got in an early oversteer situation and clipped a wall at the apex. Could be the tires were not up to temp yet or could be simple track debris.... could be a lot of things. S#!t happens. I've spun or gone off track several times in my lifetime but knock on wood... never had any major car damage. I must admit that track does not look like the ideal venue to push the limits of the car. I prefer more curbing and run off areas.

Lafourche1 · 05-30-2017, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Damn... He really did a number on it...

PTM modes are your friend on the road track. I thought I was good enough to go full race mode a couple years ago and ended up doing 360's across the grass. Lucky there was no wall but it was back to PTM 3 for me.

I like what the instructor at one of the class sessions said; "Electronic Nannies are your friend. Leave them turned on."

Tracking on worn tires is not very smart and you are surely asking for it.

Eric SS · 05-30-2017, 03:48 PM

I hate seeing this on the internet. Not the actual damaged car, but photos or videos of wrecks at track days unless they were put out by the vehicle owner. It's just poor taste and is one of those unwritten rules of track day etiquette. Don't take photos of wrecked cars during a track day and put them out in the universe.

unavailablezl1 · 05-30-2017, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I agree that watching a nice car get totaled sucks.

I based on my comments on reply #7 when they said he was on bald tires due to excessive drag racing. He should have never been a track and could have not only hurt himself but someone else. I replace my tires at the slightest show of wear or sidewall damage. Expensive sport but you have to pay to play safe....

Golf is the most expensive sport, then being a pilot. So tires are cheap.

Infern0 · 05-30-2017, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by glamcem

Turn 1 is a bit tricky at Pacific Raceways, I've seen other crashes there before. This is a high speed corner and if someone doesn't pay attention to the maintenance throttle it may result in a lift off oversteer and crash easily. This may or may not be the case here of course:

Wow! That's terrifying. You're right about paying attention, though, if you didn't already know that was there, you would have never been able to correct in time to complete that turn.

zipline · 05-30-2017, 07:00 PM

These pics and vids are quite sobering. I cringe when I read threads on internet forums about amateurs in street cars with 6 or 7 hundred horsepower making top end runs of 190-200 MPH and honestly believing that they are good to go at those ridiculous speeds. They are not. Leave those speeds to the pros guys.

05-30-2017, 08:08 AM	#31
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	Very bad wreck good to see there is little damage around the driver's area, this could have been much worse. I hope he has the track insurance if not this will be an extremely expensive day. Problem with these cars is that while they are capable of putting up monster times with a pro driver at the wheel, put a novice in the car with multiple laps and tire wear at this power level and this can be the result. __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

05-30-2017, 12:33 PM	#32
Squatch Camaro pilot Drives: 69 Camaro, 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Medford OR Posts: 299	Engine looks good! I want to drop it in my '69, bet it will fly with that LT4 in it! __________________ 2014 ZL1 Camaro 1969 Camaro

05-30-2017, 02:08 PM	#33
glamcem Drives: '19 RivrsdBlu 1LE ('17 1LE HB sold) Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,686	Turn 1 is a bit tricky at Pacific Raceways, I've seen other crashes there before. This is a high speed corner and if someone doesn't pay attention to the maintenance throttle it may result in a lift off oversteer and crash easily. This may or may not be the case here of course: __________________ Link to my build thread YouTube Page

05-30-2017, 03:41 PM	#37
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	Well, he took the entire front wheel off. That means he had to hit something solid. From watching some of that venue track video with all of the hard barriers on that track I would guess he got in an early oversteer situation and clipped a wall at the apex. Could be the tires were not up to temp yet or could be simple track debris.... could be a lot of things. S#!t happens. I've spun or gone off track several times in my lifetime but knock on wood... never had any major car damage. I must admit that track does not look like the ideal venue to push the limits of the car. I prefer more curbing and run off areas. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

05-30-2017, 02:16 PM	#34
crunch527 Drives: Big Brown Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: USA Posts: 79	Everyone's desire to throw out speculation as truth is totally in line with the bullshit fake news and journalism trends in general these days...social media at its finest...makes wikipedia look like a modern day Britannica Encyclopedia... On wait a minute, I read it on the internet therefore, it must be true...

05-30-2017, 03:21 PM	#36
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	Ouchies

05-30-2017, 03:48 PM	#39
Eric SS #becauseracecar Drives: 2016 SS Sedan, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,959	I hate seeing this on the internet. Not the actual damaged car, but photos or videos of wrecks at track days unless they were put out by the vehicle owner. It's just poor taste and is one of those unwritten rules of track day etiquette. Don't take photos of wrecked cars during a track day and put them out in the universe.

05-30-2017, 07:00 PM	#42
zipline Drives: chevy Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: oh Posts: 78	These pics and vids are quite sobering. I cringe when I read threads on internet forums about amateurs in street cars with 6 or 7 hundred horsepower making top end runs of 190-200 MPH and honestly believing that they are good to go at those ridiculous speeds. They are not. Leave those speeds to the pros guys.

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