[Jinkz]

Hey guys so I'm having a hard time at the track. I haven't gotten to run it in the quarter since the modifications. But I ran it in the 1/8th I was running like an 8.01 at 98. Which is terrible and translates to like a 12.3. But I couldn't find the right amount of power to launch. Seems like 2600rpms would nearly stall and 2800 would blow the tires off. I just need a lot more practice. But what is everyone running in the quarter?

[big dave]

Well we've got one member who has run 11.7s with his stock manual. I'm sure he'll chime in once he sees this post.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Jinkz

Hey guys so I'm having a hard time at the track. I haven't gotten to run it in the quarter since the modifications. But I ran it in the 1/8th I was running like an 8.01 at 98. Which is terrible and translates to like a 12.3. But I couldn't find the right amount of power to launch. Seems like 2600rpms would nearly stall and 2800 would blow the tires off. I just need a lot more practice. But what is everyone running in the quarter?

Your mph is worth a very low 7 second 1/8th mile.

[Shorty45]

You'll find some great info over at the 1/4m drag threads. Btw, his name is Cal (C Webster) and you'll find some very detailed info on his lessons learned at the track and practice with videos (which r on YouTube as well)
Here is his thread...http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485926

[Infern0]

Originally Posted by Jinkz

Hey guys so I'm having a hard time at the track. I haven't gotten to run it in the quarter since the modifications. But I ran it in the 1/8th I was running like an 8.01 at 98. Which is terrible and translates to like a 12.3. But I couldn't find the right amount of power to launch. Seems like 2600rpms would nearly stall and 2800 would blow the tires off. I just need a lot more practice. But what is everyone running in the quarter?

I know this feel.. :( For me it definitely was being out of practice. Hope to improve very soon.

[laynlo15]

I know you guys love the sticks but A10 will just kill it at the drag strip, you need drag radials or slicks with the M6

[crazydmc]

Originally Posted by Jinkz

Hey guys so I'm having a hard time at the track. I haven't gotten to run it in the quarter since the modifications. But I ran it in the 1/8th I was running like an 8.01 at 98. Which is terrible and translates to like a 12.3. But I couldn't find the right amount of power to launch. Seems like 2600rpms would nearly stall and 2800 would blow the tires off. I just need a lot more practice. But what is everyone running in the quarter?

there is no way to dump the clutch and have a good run... like you said, either bog the engine or spin the tires... what else could happen?

(oh, unless you have traction control on.. then it will just cut the engine power when the wheels spin, which feels awful and does not make for good times)

you have to apply throttle and slip the clutch just the right amount to get maximum launch without spinning tires. hard to do, especially consistently, and definitely hard on the clutch..... an automatic has all the advantages here.

no drag racing for me....unless you want to set your car up for drag racing I don't see the point. i'm not gonna beat the crap out of my car.
JMHO

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by crazydmc

there is no way to dump the clutch and have a good run... like you said, either bog the engine or spin the tires... what else could happen?

(oh, unless you have traction control on.. then it will just cut the engine power when the wheels spin, which feels awful and does not make for good times)

you have to apply throttle and slip the clutch just the right amount to get maximum launch without spinning tires. hard to do, especially consistently, and definitely hard on the clutch..... an automatic has all the advantages here.

no drag racing for me....unless you want to set your car up for drag racing I don't see the point. i'm not gonna beat the crap out of my car.
JMHO

Yeah, have to agree. It's hard to do, hard on the car, you'll probably disappoint yourself anyways. Let the auto boys go out and set their times and you can have fun rev matching your own gears. Though I heard once that manuals are only slower because manual drivers' balls are so large and heavy they drag on the ground.

[Jinkz]

Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

Yeah, have to agree. It's hard to do, hard on the car, you'll probably disappoint yourself anyways. Let the auto boys go out and set their times and you can have fun rev matching your own gears. Though I heard once that manuals are only slower because manual drivers' balls are so large and heavy they drag on the ground.

😂 im gonna make a good track time I swear one of these days lol

[cwebster]

Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

Yeah, have to agree. It's hard to do, hard on the car, you'll probably disappoint yourself anyways. Let the auto boys go out and set their times and you can have fun rev matching your own gears. Though I heard once that manuals are only slower because manual drivers' balls are so large and heavy they drag on the ground.

AhhhHaHaHa! You're killing me! Good one!

[cwebster]

Originally Posted by Jinkz

Hey guys so I'm having a hard time at the track. I haven't gotten to run it in the quarter since the modifications. But I ran it in the 1/8th I was running like an 8.01 at 98. Which is terrible and translates to like a 12.3. But I couldn't find the right amount of power to launch. Seems like 2600rpms would nearly stall and 2800 would blow the tires off. I just need a lot more practice. But what is everyone running in the quarter?

You can always see who's been running fastest at the track by checking the "Official 6th Gen 1/4 Mile V8 Fast List". Many thanks to Merc for tirelessly maintaining the lists.

See below for info on what I've learned over the past 5 months since I got my new 6th Gen ZL1. I'm happy to share what I've learned.

Originally Posted by laynlo15

I know you guys love the sticks but A10 will just kill it at the drag strip, you need drag radials or slicks with the M6

Agreed. DR's will likely net you the biggest gains without spending a lot of time improving launching skills. However, there's something to be said for taking up the challenge of seeing just how far you can go "bone stock". I've found that it's helped me to give myself a tune-up, sharpening my skills and forcing me to analyze what caused me to be slower each time.

Originally Posted by big dave

Well we've got one member who has run 11.7s with his stock manual. I'm sure he'll chime in once he sees this post.

Thanks Dave! If anyone wants to see what I've done wrong and how I improved over time, they're welcome to read the chronicles of my quest for 11.7's. I'm not ashamed to show all the details. No one learns to walk without falling first. No one ever got any degree of satisfaction from doing anything easy either. It's been hard but I've learned a lot and I'm still learning - and having a blast doing it too.

Big Dave is right. There is a lot of great information in the discussion group "Dragstrip and Launching Discussion". That's where the thread Dave linked is located. That discussion group is populated by a wide range of very knowledgeable, experienced, skilled drivers; including "Big Dave", "layno", "PRAY", and many others. It's where I get much of my information and tips when I've got questions. They're all great people and eager to help.

Here are links to the threads I've started in my journey to get faster with this beautiful beast. Some contain questions and other members answers. Others just describe the fun I had and what I learned at various events. I always try to be detailed enough to satisfy those craving details but organized so that those who want the "Cliff Notes" can skim over.

My experiments while getting to know the car before bringing it to the track:

ZL1 Launch Control PDR Videos
Initial Post: 01-13-2017, 05:41 PM

6th Gen ZL1 practice with launch and no-lift shift
Initial Post: 01-24-2017, 11:51 AM

11.4 ET 6th Gen ZL1 Using Custom Launch Controls
Initial Post: 01-27-2017, 07:48 PM


Detailed posts on my track sessions:

6th Gen ZL1 M6 Broke into 11's at track
Initial Post: 01-30-2017, 02:55 PM

6thGen ZL1 1/4 mile
Initial Post: 01-16-2017, 03:22 PM

11's on Street Rubber ** This has been updated with my most recent visit where I finally attained my goal of 11.7's
Initial Post: 02-28-2017, 02:41 AM


My experiences at Bondurant Racing School before taking delivery:

Bondurant Racing School
Initial Post: 10-06-2016, 12:40 PM

Bondurant Racing School - Whether you track or not
Initial Post: 12-20-2016, 05:43 PM

As Big Dave also mentioned, you can also visit my YouTube channel to scroll through the playlists I've setup with passes from each track visit listed in chronological order. All my PDR, GoPro, and Spectator videos are there as well. However, my drag strip visits are recorded in the greatest detail right here, though, in the threads above.

My YouTube Playlists

My recommendation is to take your time and ask a lot of questions. Do the research on your own too. You'll learn a lot more that way and you'll get answers that best suit your own needs.

--Cal

[Infern0]

Originally Posted by cwebster

You can always see who's been running fastest at the track by checking the "Official 6th Gen 1/4 Mile V8 Fast List". Many thanks to Merc for tirelessly maintaining the lists.

See below for info on what I've learned over the past 5 months since I got my new 6th Gen ZL1. I'm happy to share what I've learned.



Agreed. DR's will likely net you the biggest gains without spending a lot of time improving launching skills. However, there's something to be said for taking up the challenge of seeing just how far you can go "bone stock". I've found that it's helped me to give myself a tune-up, sharpening my skills and forcing me to analyze what caused me to be slower each time.



Thanks Dave! If anyone wants to see what I've done wrong and how I improved over time, they're welcome to read the chronicles of my quest for 11.7's. I'm not ashamed to show all the details. No one learns to walk without falling first. No one ever got any degree of satisfaction from doing anything easy either. It's been hard but I've learned a lot and I'm still learning - and having a blast doing it too.

Big Dave is right. There is a lot of great information in the discussion group "Dragstrip and Launching Discussion". That's where the thread Dave linked is located. That discussion group is populated by a wide range of very knowledgeable, experienced, skilled drivers; including "Big Dave", "layno", "PRAY", and many others. It's where I get much of my information and tips when I've got questions. They're all great people and eager to help.

Here are links to the threads I've started in my journey to get faster with this beautiful beast. Some contain questions and other members answers. Others just describe the fun I had and what I learned at various events. I always try to be detailed enough to satisfy those craving details but organized so that those who want the "Cliff Notes" can skim over.

My experiments while getting to know the car before bringing it to the track:

ZL1 Launch Control PDR Videos
Initial Post: 01-13-2017, 05:41 PM

6th Gen ZL1 practice with launch and no-lift shift
Initial Post: 01-24-2017, 11:51 AM

11.4 ET 6th Gen ZL1 Using Custom Launch Controls
Initial Post: 01-27-2017, 07:48 PM


Detailed posts on my track sessions:

6th Gen ZL1 M6 Broke into 11's at track
Initial Post: 01-30-2017, 02:55 PM

6thGen ZL1 1/4 mile
Initial Post: 01-16-2017, 03:22 PM

11's on Street Rubber ** This has been updated with my most recent visit where I finally attained my goal of 11.7's
Initial Post: 02-28-2017, 02:41 AM


My experiences at Bondurant Racing School before taking delivery:

Bondurant Racing School
Initial Post: 10-06-2016, 12:40 PM

Bondurant Racing School - Whether you track or not
Initial Post: 12-20-2016, 05:43 PM

As Big Dave also mentioned, you can also visit my YouTube channel to scroll through the playlists I've setup with passes from each track visit listed in chronological order. All my PDR, GoPro, and Spectator videos are there as well. However, my drag strip visits are recorded in the greatest detail right here, though, in the threads above.

My YouTube Playlists

My recommendation is to take your time and ask a lot of questions. Do the research on your own too. You'll learn a lot more that way and you'll get answers that best suit your own needs.

--Cal

Thanks man!

[cwebster]

Originally Posted by Infern0

Thanks man!

My pleasure. Not being an expert, it's my way of contributing. It would be gratifying to know it helped anyone in some small way.

--Cal

[Shorty45]

Thanks Cal for your help! I very much appreciate all the hard work and details you've provided.--Shorty