[DenverTaco07]

My buddy thinks a car he no longer even owns (Scion FRS / Sub BRZ / Toyota 86) can "out handle" my 1LE "all day long".

Can someone please help me slap him in the face!

[seanblurr]

Just smile and nod your head.

[Zboy136]

The SS 1LE does 1.02 lateral g's on the skipad

The Brz does 0.88 g's

It's not even close, here are my references to prove it.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...package/page-3

https://www.edmunds.com/subaru/brz/2...st-specs2.html

[Casalino]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

My buddy thinks a car he no longer even owns (Scion FRS / Sub BRZ / Toyota 86) can "out handle" my 1LE "all day long".

Can someone please help me slap him in the face!

Tell him his frs is probably faster too. I bet he agrees lmao

[SaphfireSS]

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That is 3 slaps in the face. Lmao
Ricers......wtf ever!

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by seanblurr

Just smile and nod your head.

I probably should, but that's not fun:

here's what I compiled, well...Motor Trend did.

Mclaren 570S tested @ $219,000 MSRP
23.0 seconds @ .93 g average Motor Trend figure eight course
1.04 g lateral acceleration
Braking 60mph to 0 in 97 ft

Mustang GT 350R (their track beast) tested @ $67,000 MSRP
23.3 seconds @ .87 g average Motor Trend figure eight course
1.08 g lateral acceleration
Braking 60mph to 0 in 101 ft

Porsche Carrera S tested @ $140,000 MSRP
23.1 seconds @ .91 g average Motor Trend figure eight course
1.05 g lateral acceleration
Braking 60mph to 0 in 97 ft

Camaro SS 1LE tested @ $45,700 MSRP
23.3 seconds @ .86 g average Motor Trend figure eight course
1.09 g lateral acceleration
Braking 60mph to 0 in 94 ft

FRS tested @ $28,000 MSRP
26.2 seconds @.68 g average Motor Trend figure eight course
.90 g lateral acceleration
Braking 60mph to 0 in 120 ft.

[mjk3888]

Send him this link and tell him to educate himself!

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mclar...t-drivers-car/

[WhyUMad1LE]

He probably means in subjective handling feel. Although I wasn't too impressed with the FRS suspension, I wouldn't mind if we could have a 1LE in that smaller size.

If we all liked the same things life would be boring..

[mjk3888]

Also show him this. My first AutoX event I ran faster than the fastest FR-S in D street. I also believe he was running the Auto X preferred Bridgestone RE-71 R's. He clearly is an excellent driver as he won his class by over 5.5 seconds but he still couldn't out run my bone stock SS 1LE with a VERY GREEN Novice at the wheel. I'm pretty sure everyone would admit that Auto X is also an event that would favor the FR-S.

https://ccrscca.com/wp-content/uploa...cher_fin-1.htm

[glamcem]

I had a SC'd BRZ and it was heavily modded for track days. Not even close to a stock 1LE in any way you can think of 1LE is just in a whole another league

[thescreensavers]

Originally Posted by Zboy136

The SS 1LE does 1.02 lateral g's on the skipad

The Brz does 0.88 g's

Look at the tires both come with that's why.

I have a Miata on extreme performance tires so I can compare my 1LE to it which is a fair comparison for this argument.

The 1LE is 3700lbs and BRZ/86 is ~2800lbs (Miata 2200) that fact alone the BRZ/86 will leave the 1LE behind with equal tire setups in tight and lots of changes in direction type corners(totd/autox)

The 1LE will absolutely destroy the BRZ/86 is any larger radius turns/straight aways(most tracks)

This is the fact of life and is why Miatas beat Corvettes and Camaros at Autocross alot of the time. Also remember Every month is a different course layout so sometimes it might favor lighter cars others times faster cars.

Both cars are awesome but physics is still physics

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by thescreensavers

Look at the tires both come with that's why.

I have a Miata on extreme performance tires so I can compare my 1LE to it which is a fair comparison for this argument.

The 1LE is 3700lbs and BRZ/86 is ~2800lbs (Miata 2200) that fact alone the BRZ/86 will leave the 1LE behind with equal tire setups in tight and lots of changes in direction type corners(totd/autox)

The 1LE will absolutely destroy the BRZ/86 is any larger radius turns/straight aways(most tracks)

This is the fact of life and is why Miatas beat Corvettes and Camaros at Autocross alot of the time. Also remember Every month is a different course layout so sometimes it might favor lighter cars others times faster cars.

Both cars are awesome but physics is still physics

Sorry, the local Boondocks kids go cart track says I can't rent it to test out the theory.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Zboy136

The SS 1LE does 1.02 lateral g's on the skipad

The Brz does 0.88 g's

It's not even close, here are my references to prove it.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...package/page-3

https://www.edmunds.com/subaru/brz/2...st-specs2.html

The SS 1LE does 1.09 and 1.05 as per MT and C&D...even better.

[SS 1LE]

...also remember how much better the SS 1LE's brakes are...60 mph to 0 in only 94'.