[WhiteLightening]

Is there any aftermarket cams for our v6 lgx? Just curious...I've seem YouTube has plenty of camed v6 camaros... So my thought is there any being developed for our cars?

[hightorq]

Well I know it took quite a long time to get the cam grind correct for the LFX. The LGX is a completely re-thought engine so I assume it will take a long time before anything appears.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

That's a can of worms it took way to long for both the 5th Gen LLT and LFX engines to get a viable cam to marketplace and even then most were bogged with tuning issues and underwhelming power. Not to sh*t on any hopeful parade having come from a 2011 V6 I wouldn't get your hopes up for one anytime soon unless you can convince mishimoto or zzperformance to try their hands.

[willoverkill]

I'm sure we'll get there. Overkill is looking at cam solutions to solve a fuel supply issue on the LFX/LLT motors, and we'll look at that on the LGX once we find a need. In the meantime, a supercharger system is your best easy bet for more power, if you want to move beyond the typical intake and exhaust mods

[PolynesianPowerhouse]

Everything said above.... and even with the lfx cams, not many buyers... only a select few seriously indulged.

Now there was the "ghost cam"...and all that was, is a tune that made the car sound like it had cams. No real gains, just the sound. Fuel mileage went down as well.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

I think the issue with the LLT/LFX Cams was how long they waited to get them to market and the gains were kinda crap for the cost. The same thing said by overkill was just said 5 yrs. Ago and it killed the aftermarket cam support and honestly i know there's a V6 aftermarket but it's just not as cost productive on returns it takes maybe a month for full returns in a V8 product but years on a V6 product so they jack the cost up to compensate. Driving away followers it's a shit world and unless they jump on it nothing will happen in time to save it.

[monkeychops]

who cares about a cam????
just turbo or supercharge the thing and be done.

Are there any more vids coming will???

[WhiteLightening]

To hear the whine of a turbo costs 7 grand...cams are cheaper and keep it NA. Which is easier on the internals . That's what I know. Tho if I had the money to fund a R&D PROJECT for a turbo or supercharger I would pick a supercharger.

[PolynesianPowerhouse]

Originally Posted by monkeychops

who cares about a cam????
just turbo or supercharge the thing and be done.

Are there any more vids coming will???

Some people care about cams, cause that way you can still have a n/a car. Especially if you run certain classes for those of us that race in leagues/groups that are sanctioned

Ideally if you boost a car in either manner, a cam that has very little overlap is more ideal than a n/a cam setup in general.

However more than likely you can tune the intake vs exhaust to do just that or close to it than a fixed cam setup since we have vvt.

With that being said if anyone looks at what boost costs vs, the cams plus labor to install prices (visit some 5th gen posts) either or are comparable pricewise...

Performance wise, boost wins.

But the people who are usually serious about doing this...they aren't on forums asking for companies to do it. Their asking cam makers and getting stuff done custom.



If you can't secure cam blanks from gm. You can always get a regrind done via most major cam companies. Tuning will need to be custom. And obviously factor in labor charges.

[gringo]

Why get new cams? With VVT, could you not control the cam timing to provide a moderate increase in performance through a tune? And, if the stock actuators do not provide enough range to do this, would not an aftermarket actuator (if they made such a thing) setup work just as good?

The only thing left would be cam lift which new cams would provide. However, I'm sure a lot can be done with cam timing to produce pretty good results. No?

[WhiteLightening]

Originally Posted by gringo

Why get new cams? With VVT, could you not control the cam timing to provide a moderate increase in performance through a tune? And, if the stock actuators do not provide enough range to do this, would not an aftermarket actuator (if they made such a thing) setup work just as good?

The only thing left would be cam lift which new cams would provide. However, I'm sure a lot can be done with cam timing to produce pretty good results. No?

Damn, I didn't think of that idea at all!! Is that even possible?

[gringo]

Originally Posted by WhiteLightening

Damn, I didn't think of that idea at all!! Is that even possible?

I'm sure it is. Unfortunately, all you hear is "crickets" when this topic is brought up. lol!

[PolynesianPowerhouse]

Originally Posted by gringo

I'm sure it is. Unfortunately, all you hear is "crickets" when this topic is brought up. lol!

cause no one will want to pay for what it will cost. that's generally the name of the game when it comes to performance on forums. supercharger. everyone wants one. price 5-6grand... ohhh that's too much. turbos the same thing. nitrous even...

kinda like the iconic quote from Ronnie Coleman. "everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but don't no one wanna lift no heavy a$$ weights"

unfortunately these aren't small block v8's to where you can just add a cam already packaged from summit racing. or change a set of rocker arms from 1.5 to 1.6 or 1.7 lift.

right now you're talking about aftermarket actuators. you may get lucky and find a foreign version of the vehicle that offer a bit more range. if not, you need to find a company to R&D and reverse engineer whats already there. this wont be cheap. their time is money too.

the company that did the custom grind cams, which is prob what most will want... https://www.maceengineering.com.au/e...roducts/CAM645

1500$ (or 1490 for those wanting that discount )






don't forget the price to install....theres a few chains under there. I've read that prices were anywhere from 4-500 up to 1000$ depending on how savvy your shop is on LGX work. will they offer you a discount? some shops charge roughly 100$ per hour. unless you plan to do it...

Florida owners, Tucker does the cam installs (he is a GM tech as well from) for under $1000. And add $350 if you want latest timing chain set included. They have an AWD dyno as well.

Phil is not far from him for the tuning:

731-514-5012

that was a quote for the LFX engine, pretty sure the LGX will be in the same ballpark.







also as for the gains, Jason@jacfab had stated this when I was on Camaro5 for comparison.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=274


15-20hp on a TUNED set of cams? and your cost can be somewhere in the 2-3 thousand dollar range?

these are just a few of the reasons why they aren't as popular here.

not to mention, many are scared out of their wits on getting a tune, or adding an intake because of "warranty"... some wont use a cabin air filter unless from GM because of said fear.

if someone has a car that can possibly sit for a while if something goes wrong, it would be a decent project to undertake for sure.

Austrailian peeps claimed gains of 30 to 40 whp.... once people here got cams, you were barely getting enough gains to justify it over an aftermarket intake.







Now JantzenOKC... is running 10's with a LFX v6. yes its boosted, but what he says in this post is a good summary of the 35 page long post on cams.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=464




and yes, when I had my 2013 Camaro, I followed this post religiously. I too was ready to buy cams. by the time I traded up to the 2016, the idea of tuning the cams we already have, made more sense. remember, guys & gals were going from 240whp stock, to 270-280 whp with JUST a tune....3-500$

why add cams, for 2-3000$ and gain only 15-25 whp? at least that's how I looked at it.

if anyone is up for some reading, The LFX tune / Mace cams install thread

[Nagel]

Originally Posted by monkeychops

who cares about a cam????
just turbo or supercharge the thing and be done.

Are there any more vids coming will???

True