[00 Trans Ram]

OP, if you want to do a muffler, cat, etc. delete, and are worried about "drone", you can always add some J-pipes. I did these on my G8 when I had the stock exhaust. I won't explain how they work (long explanation - and you can google it), but they worked perfectly. Absolutely ZERO drone.



You'd have to find out the exact length that the pipes need to be for our engine. Not sure anyone has done it yet. But, it's easy to do. Just modify the design slightly so that the straight part of the "J" is a slip-fit with about 4-6" of adjustment. Then, you can adjust the length back and forth to get the right length. (Then tell us what the length is!)

Of course . . . if you wanted to go with LT headers and exhaust dumps under the floorpan angled out under the doors, you'd get this sound (click the pic).

[Richard0nee]

Yep, I installed J-pipes with my Flowmaster Super 10's. The Super 10's are the most aggressive and deepest which unfortunately comes with drone. I put 26" J-pipes and eliminated 80-90% of the drone. Without the J-pipes, I wouldn't be able to use Flowmasters since I hate drone.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472503

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

A truck like H-pipe as mentioned may help, but a couple less HP.

"Truck like"? Not sure what that means...I mean H pipes were used on pretty much every muscle car. They were the go to set up on the 5.0 Fox Mustangs too. I ran one on my previous Coyote Mustang as well.

As for the power "loss", an H pipe is barely less efficient than an X pipe in most cases. There was a big thread on this on the Coyote forum when I had mine, three reputable dyno shops stepped up to test things. Two used full bolt on cars, and one was forced induction. They did like five pulls for each, swapped from an X to the H or the H to the X depending on what the car had, and did five more pulls. The difference with the full bolt on cars was like .5-1.5 hp, and even the forced induction car only had a 1.5-2.0 hp difference which is basically nothing on a dyno. So if anybody likes the sound of the H pipe better, but is worried about "losing power", the actual 1 hp or so you may lose is 100% not going to make any difference...just do what you think sounds better.

On these cars an H pipe would sound better (if you are looking for a deeper sound), and at some point I will go that route after hearing my friends.

[00 Trans Ram]

Also, OP - I really like your sound. No, it's not "60's muscle car deep." It sounds more like "high-revving Italian car V8".

No one is going to mistake it for a Civic, though!

[Alpha1BC]

+1 for the h-pipe. The MRT exhaust on my car has one, definitely makes a difference vs. the x-pipe. I have the V3 (straight pipe, cat back) on my car currently and love it. The V2 (cat-back with mufflers) video sounds closer to what the car sounds like in person due to the mic. Unfortunately, I don't have any good recordings of my own yet.

[marknagy13]

Originally Posted by Megahurtz

That high pitched sound is due to the X pipe. LS1. LS6. LS7. LS7, LT1, LT4 all sound nearly identical with the same exhaust. I have the Borla S-Type and X pipe and it sounds mean and deep at low RPMs. It is very loud at full throttle and does get a little exotic sounding. I think it sounds wonderful.

If you want an old school muscle car sound (dated IMO) then you should look for an H pipe and a flowmaster setup. You will lose a bit of power though, but probably not enough to notice.

How dare you say the old school muscle car sound is dated.... Lol
It will sound the best until the end of time!

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Megahurtz

. LS1. LS6. LS7, LT1, LT4 all sound nearly identical with the same exhaust.

This is totally false if you are talking about the previous gen LTx? I am going to assume you mean the current gen LTx, if so I sort of agree.

The older gen LTx had a totally different, deeper, sound then the LSx and current gen LTx.

I owned both a '95 Z28 and '00 SS at the same time for awhile, and both had the same SLP exhaust. They sounded completely different. I actually thought the deeper, bassier, LT1 sounded much better...it was less raspy.

[Megahurtz]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

This is totally false if you are talking about the previous gen LTx? I am going to assume you mean the current gen LTx, if so I sort of agree.

The older gen LTx had a totally different, deeper, sound then the LSx and current gen LTx.

I owned both a '95 Z28 and '00 SS at the same time for awhile, and both had the same SLP exhaust. They sounded completely different. I actually thought the deeper, bassier, LT1 sounded much better...it was less raspy.

I am talking about the LT1 from 2014+. Don't freak out, I've been around long enough to have owned an F body LT1 as well.

[marknagy13]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

This is totally false if you are talking about the previous gen LTx? I am going to assume you mean the current gen LTx, if so I sort of agree.

The older gen LTx had a totally different, deeper, sound then the LSx and current gen LTx.

I owned both a '95 Z28 and '00 SS at the same time for awhile, and both had the same SLP exhaust. They sounded completely different. I actually thought the deeper, bassier, LT1 sounded much better...it was less raspy.

In his defense it's mostly because the exhaust setups on all those cars are different. If you had the exact same system, they would probably sound similar.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by marknagy13

In his defense it's mostly because the exhaust setups on all those cars are different. If you had the exact same system, they would probably sound similar.

The cars I was talking about had the same exhaust set ups. Exhaust manifolds into dual cated Y pipe, into a single mid pipe, into a single muffler, two tail pipes...

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Megahurtz

I am talking about the LT1 from 2014+. Don't freak out, I've been around long enough to have owned an F body LT1 as well.

Belive me, that was far from "freaking out".

[SS2017]

Originally Posted by Alpha1BC

+1 for the h-pipe. The MRT exhaust on my car has one, definitely makes a difference vs. the x-pipe. I have the V3 (straight pipe, cat back) on my car currently and love it. The V2 (cat-back with mufflers) video sounds closer to what the car sounds like in person due to the mic. Unfortunately, I don't have any good recordings of my own yet.

I have this too, I prefer the H pipe sound!

[gdgraph]

If you don't like the Borla and wanted to sell them, it would be super easy. They are probably the best selling exhaust for our car because of the quality, sounds, and no drone - if I had to bet you could sell them within a week.

If you try to go any deeper with the sound just beware that it will most likely drone. If you go that route I'd look into getting custom built J-pipes. I had Magnaflows and the drone & vibrations were so bad I took them off the car in a week (and switched to the S-type) because it was driving me nuts, mostly because it was the worst at normal operating rpms. They sounded great from the outside of the car which is probably why they are able to sell them, they sound good in videos but horrible inside of the car.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

"Truck like"? Not sure what that means...I mean H pipes were used on pretty much every muscle car. They were the go to set up on the 5.0 Fox Mustangs too. I ran one on my previous Coyote Mustang as well.

As for the power "loss", an H pipe is barely less efficient than an X pipe in most cases. There was a big thread on this on the Coyote forum when I had mine, three reputable dyno shops stepped up to test things. Two used full bolt on cars, and one was forced induction. They did like five pulls for each, swapped from an X to the H or the H to the X depending on what the car had, and did five more pulls. The difference with the full bolt on cars was like .5-1.5 hp, and even the forced induction car only had a 1.5-2.0 hp difference which is basically nothing on a dyno. So if anybody likes the sound of the H pipe better, but is worried about "losing power", the actual 1 hp or so you may lose is 100% not going to make any difference...just do what you think sounds better.

On these cars an H pipe would sound better (if you are looking for a deeper sound), and at some point I will go that route after hearing my friends.

Also the go to on pick up trucks. Glad we agree.