[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

315s on the front of a straight line car make no sense.

Edit: Maybe the wheels are the same size and offset so you can rotate them.

That's what the article implied. But for a car built without compromise for the strip....the weight of those tires/wheels on the front makes no sense. Why would they even be concerned with giving someone the ability to rotate them? Afraid the owner will be too cheap to replace the rear tires as needed

[newmoon]

Well lets get to what we know already. The car will be offered with an option for atleast a 200-lb weight reduction. The car will be offered with 315 series NT05R DRs in the rear. If there is no power bump at all which is unlikely, it is already a mid 10s car right off of the lot and it won't need perfect strip conditions, perfect weather conditions, and hidden mods to do it.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

315s on the front of a straight line car make no sense.

Edit: Maybe the wheels are the same size and offset so you can rotate them.

Maybe but maybe not. Could be the DRs in the back will be an option, possibly part of some sort of dragpack. The 315s in front or all around in non DR configuration along with substantial weight loss would give the car much more track prowness for those not interested in 1/4 mile or street racing.

If you think about most track reviews for the Hellcat it is that the car simply over powers the present 275s even at part throttle. Swapping to a full set of 315s in a more aggressive compount such as an NT05 along with a weight loss would go a long way in solving this issue.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

And no source for that info and they definitely did not get that from the video. Smells like BS to me. When articles don't list where they get their info from, it reminds me how all of the auto media insisted there would be no turbo 4 Camaro in the 6th gen. We see how that turned out.

Also no mention of why the tires carry a Demon logo if they are off the shelf NT05Rs (which is far from a slick I hate to inform them). There are stickier DRs out there too.

Very true! Let me check something...

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Very true! Let me check something...

Another look at something more representative is indicating NT05R's only at the rear.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Maybe but maybe not. Could be the DRs in the back will be an option, possibly part of some sort of dragpack. The 315s in front or all around in non DR configuration along with substantial weight loss would give the car much more track prowness for those not interested in 1/4 mile or street racing.

If you think about most track reviews for the Hellcat it is that the car simply over powers the present 275s even at part throttle. Swapping to a full set of 315s in a more aggressive compount such as an NT05 along with a weight loss would go a long way in solving this issue.

If there was another model besides the Demon, then maybe but you still have the fact they are 18" wheels with smaller brakes than on any LX car. You don't build a road course car with wider front wheels, smaller brakes, and no enhanced suspension to utilize them. It also doesn't jive with the whole “designed and engineered for a subculture of enthusiasts who know that a tenth is a car and a half second is your reputation.” There's only one place time has car lengths like that, the strip.

[TheRealJA105]

They are making a widebody option for the regular Hellcat that will be aimed at the road course. 305/35R20s all around and upgraded suspension.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by travislambert

I've seen two reasonably good guesses:

Supercharger Displacement: 2576cc
Boost: 35 (inHg) which is about 17.1 psi

Given the "#" and "@" symbols on the plate and 3,500 RPM being a reasonable RPM for peak torque, I prefer this theory:

2576 ft lbs of torque (#) to the wheels @ 3,500 RPM
when you adjust for the gear ratio (assuming 3.7 here):
2576 / 3.7 (gear ratio) = 696 ft lbs to the wheels

I think the first one is a possibility, but the best guess I have seen is 257.6 pounds lighter and 3.5 inches wider. Think of the title of this video "Body".

[Mountain]

What I saw had NT05R's at the rear and something else at the front. I know they were NT05R's due to the tread design. Also, whatever the car was, Demon or not, it did NOT have 18's. They were 19's or 20's for sure.

[TheRealJA105]

The Demon has 18s. You mean a test mule you saw? That could be the widebody Hellcat I just referred to.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Mountain

What I saw had NT05R's at the rear and something else at the front. I know they were NT05R's due to the tread design. Also, whatever the car was, Demon or not, it did NOT have 18's. They were 19's or 20's for sure.

If it was a mule for just a widebody track Hellcat, it would make no sense to have DRs on the back then. Would make it handle worse than a standard Hellcat. It could have been doing some general testing for both models I guess.


So obviously if they are working on another version besides the Demon, where's all the hype from Dodge on that one? Must still be in very early testing then.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Well lets get to what we know already. The car will be offered with an option for atleast a 200-lb weight reduction. The car will be offered with 315 series NT05R DRs in the rear. If there is no power bump at all which is unlikely, it is already a mid 10s car right off of the lot and it won't need perfect strip conditions, perfect weather conditions, and hidden mods to do it.

It's a high tens car with a DR as is in good conditions. 200 lbs isn't going to make it mid tens all day every day. I have one at my local track. In -400 DA its best run of the night with a 1.6 60ft was 10.88@127.

It will make it a possible mid tens car in good conditions. But this car is going to be 800+ hp. So who cares

The 200 lbs is an option? That's weird too.

[newmoon]

I think there will be several options available for this Demon, including a dragpack of some sort. If Dodge's only intention was for this car to be strictly a drag/street race purpose vehicle they would not equip it with 315s out front. Maybe some version of a TA Demon is also in the works with upgraded brakes and suspension.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I think there will be several options available for this Demon, including a dragpack of some sort. If Dodge's only intention was for this car to be strictly a drag/street race purpose vehicle they would not equip it with 315s out front. Maybe some version of a TA Demon is also in the works with upgraded brakes and suspension.

It's possible but it will be exactly that...a completely different version. There are too many things that will need to be changed for track action. Considering they are using the "Demon" name exclusively for this strip car, I doubt a track version will use the same name.


They could probably just use Hellcat T/A or Hellcat Comp T/A.