[John Hennessey]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Very interesting. Hellcat A8 vs ZL1 M6. Cat measured 70 whp more but only pulled on the Z during shifts where they state he didnt no lift shift. It would be nice to know if they hot lapped those three runs.

Motor Trend quoted Al O as calling the ZL1 "the triple threat". Track car, drag car and street car. The ZL1 isn't going to "beat" the Hellcat but will be on par. A great measure of the Camaro teams goal would be a three way head 2 head with the HC and GT350R. Will be right there with both

The runs were made back to back.

[John Hennessey]

Originally Posted by 96MrBass

You would think Hennessy would run these cars from a dig being car enthusiasts. It would be nice to see where each car shines. Including the run he did with the Z06.

Too many variables that effect traction, etc to gain anything meaningful by running from a dig.

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[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by John Hennessey

Too many variables that effect traction, etc to gain anything meaningful by running from a dig.

Disagree with this.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by John Hennessey

Too many variables that effect traction, etc to gain anything meaningful by running from a dig.

Disagree with this. On a drag strip both lanes are typically prepped the same way. Equally tired, both cars should launch well. The red light determines who left too early vs a rolling start. With a rolling start the outcome can be biased at any given starting speed favoring either car. It's a shame this video wasn't stick vs stick. It would have been a more telling test.

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Disagree with this. On a drag strip both lanes are typically prepped the same way. Equally tired, both cars should launch well. The red light determines who left too early vs a rolling start. With a rolling start the outcome can be biased at any given starting speed favoring either car. It's a shame this video wasn't stick vs stick. It would have been a more telling test.

Agree, even in the vidoes, you can see the HC is already ahead before the start line, at least in first two runs...roll races are have zero controls.

From a dig, same tranny, preferably a tree.

Of course this will be the only comparison of the two as the HC won't show to the road course, it will have hairballs that day.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by John Hennessey

Too many variables that effect traction, etc to gain anything meaningful by running from a dig.

If they are both stock on factory rubber what are the variables, it is how the manufacturer sold it. We want to know how they perform from the factory with an equal start. By taking a manual vs. an auto you made a variable. It should be same driver both autos or manuals from a light.

[96MrBass]

Originally Posted by John Hennessey

Too many variables that effect traction, etc to gain anything meaningful by running from a dig.

So if ANY car has an advantage on launch or down low it's negated correct? Most races are won off the line but on a roll I agree it takes out alot of variables. I think by now we all know the hellcats strengths and weaknesses. You've driven these car's PLEASE give a lil more feedback.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by 96MrBass

So if ANY car has an advantage on launch or down low it's negated correct? Most races are won off the line but on a roll I agree it takes out alot of variables. I think by now we all know the hellcats strengths and weaknesses. You've driven these car's PLEASE give a lil more feedback.

+1

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

Agree, even in the vidoes, you can see the HC is already ahead before the start line, at least in first two runs...roll races are have zero controls.

From a dig, same tranny, preferably a tree.

Of course this will be the only comparison of the two as the HC won't show to the road course, it will have hairballs that day.

It might show but the driver woud be a spectator in the stands.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Sven59

If they are both stock on factory rubber what are the variables, it is how the manufacturer sold it. We want to know how they perform from the factory with an equal start. By taking a manual vs. an auto you made a variable. It should be same driver both autos or manuals from a light.

Nobody cares how they perform on factory stock tires. Stock tires do no more than satisfy NTSB rules. If both cars can hook there are no excuses.You want to keep your stock tires on for a race go ahead. Racers want the best tire they can use.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Nobody cares how they perform on factory stock tires. Stock tires do no more than satisfy NTSB rules. If both cars can hook there are no excuses.You want to keep your stock tires on for a race go ahead. Racers want the best tire they can use.

So you speak fo everyone?

[96MrBass]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Nobody cares how they perform on factory stock tires. Stock tires do no more than satisfy NTSB rules. If both cars can hook there are no excuses.You want to keep your stock tires on for a race go ahead. Racers want the best tire they can use.

Nobody? I would think it's majority do care stock for stock as you get them from the manufacturer and again maybe one can use it's power better maybe not.

[Faster12]

I had to skip everybody responses just so I could say my peace! Lol. I'm absolutely floored that you guys kept feeding that troll. It's really pointless to state the obvious time and time again. Chevy wasn't competing with the hellcat or the mustang. Maybe in sales, but for the last two generations they have not even compared in performance metrics. The ZL1 set its sights on the M in 2012 and never looked back. This car is light years ahead of both the mustang and hellcat in total performance. This car did exactly what Chevy intended it to do and that would be considered a success, it's really that simple.