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Old 11-04-2016, 11:32 AM   #57
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Yet another reason for the turbo4... Knocked this off this morning with 91octane gas in the tank, don't think I've seen any V6 post up a time like this yet (correct me if I'm wrong please)
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:34 AM   #58
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Yet another reason for the turbo4... Knocked this off this morning with 91octane gas in the tank, don't think I've seen any V6 post up a time like this yet (correct me if I'm wrong please)
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:48 AM   #59
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haha, I knew this car had a 5.2 in it
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:50 PM   #60
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I do 5.4sec at stoplights without a launch pretty frequently. I'll need to do a few launch ones sometime. These cars have some serious underestimated power.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:06 PM   #61
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:16 PM   #62
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Yet another reason for the turbo4... Knocked this off this morning with 91octane gas in the tank, don't think I've seen any V6 post up a time like this yet (correct me if I'm wrong please)
Bone stock using no lift shifts and launching at 3000rpm:
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:52 PM   #63
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I don't think I've ever gotten under a 6.2 or something because you can't launch the auto without it starting the timer before you even start moving. Useless feature.


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Old 11-04-2016, 05:09 PM   #64
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Well I say supposedly because there are a couple tuners that say their tuning is undetectable and does not change the flash counter... I don't want to step on a forum sponsors toes by calling them out. They believe it's undetectable and that's one of their selling points, but I can't say whether it's actually true or not. I feel like it's not myself.



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They can say it is 'undetectable' until they are blue in the face, but that's absolutely meaningless. None of them will be there to support you if GM cancels your powertrain warranty. Gotta pay if you wanna play in the aftermarket modification game.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:47 PM   #65
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I bought my 2LT v6 6speed for under 25K new.
aftermarket support for the 4 will be better than the 6
But at some point there will be a turbo upgrade for the v6 which will put it in V8 territory power wise......you wont ever tune 455 horse from the 4 and make it a daily driver reliable.
Plus the added cost of premium fuel will add up to more than the price of the V6 by the time you pay it off at the bank.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:33 PM   #66
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idk guys
I bought my 2LT v6 6speed for under 25K new.
aftermarket support for the 4 will be better than the 6
But at some point there will be a turbo upgrade for the v6 which will put it in V8 territory power wise......you wont ever tune 455 horse from the 4 and make it a daily driver reliable.
Plus the added cost of premium fuel will add up to more than the price of the V6 by the time you pay it off at the bank.
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$25k for a 2LT is a pretty smoking deal, so congrats on that!

Yes, you can add a turbo to anything and make power, but we get the advantage of having the engine designed around forced induction. I have no knowledge of what the V6 internal components are made out of, but we should have a slight advantage there.

You can easily make 400+ crank hp out of our turbo 4 with a turbo upgrade. ZZP has done it, Pfadt used to sell a kit that quoted 450 crank horsepower. However, 400 seems to be the point where you need to go to aftermarket rods and pistons. You can ET just as well as an SS at the dragstrips with bolton's, a mildly upgraded stock turbo, and tuning.

You should be running 93 in your car. It is called for in the manual. Forced induction engines do not like detonation. If you go out and wail on your car, on a hot 90+ degree summer day with 87 in the tank, you'll probably be picking up chunks of piston off the ground. Believe me, it's cheap insurance. Since you're in IL, consider running E85 if you can find it cheap enough. Lord knows it's prevalent in this state. You get the advantage of running 105 octane, and the cooling effect of methanol.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:49 PM   #67
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Just a couple thoughts...

$25k for a 2LT is a pretty smoking deal, so congrats on that!

Yes, you can add a turbo to anything and make power, but we get the advantage of having the engine designed around forced induction. I have no knowledge of what the V6 internal components are made out of, but we should have a slight advantage there.

You can easily make 400+ crank hp out of our turbo 4 with a turbo upgrade. ZZP has done it, Pfadt used to sell a kit that quoted 450 crank horsepower. However, 400 seems to be the point where you need to go to aftermarket rods and pistons. You can ET just as well as an SS at the dragstrips with bolton's, a mildly upgraded stock turbo, and tuning.

You should be running 93 in your car. It is called for in the manual. Forced induction engines do not like detonation. If you go out and wail on your car, on a hot 90+ degree summer day with 87 in the tank, you'll probably be picking up chunks of piston off the ground. Believe me, it's cheap insurance. Since you're in IL, consider running E85 if you can find it cheap enough. Lord knows it's prevalent in this state. You get the advantage of running 105 octane, and the cooling effect of methanol.
I agree with everything you've said ChicagoTommy i'll add this aswell I came from a 5th Gen V6 the aftermarket twin turbo for a V6 ran about 6.5k before install cost and only netted around 460 RWHP. Now that was an awesome car and i'd seen it in person multiple times but the cost to get a V6 to that mark is insane compared to us just upgrading the turbo and a tune.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:55 PM   #68
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I agree with everything you've said ChicagoTommy i'll add this aswell I came from a 5th Gen V6 the aftermarket twin turbo for a V6 ran about 6.5k before install cost and only netted around 460 RWHP. Now that was an awesome car and i'd seen it in person multiple times but the cost to get a V6 to that mark is insane compared to us just upgrading the turbo and a tune.
My thoughts exactly... Just picked a number ($10,000) and if you had to pay for shop time I think you would be in that ballpark... At least for a twin setup...I'm also thinking about that number in Cdn. funds

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Old 11-10-2016, 02:09 PM   #69
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Not to say a twin turbo V6 wouldn't be bada$$, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'd love to go for a rip in a TT V6 6th gen (hell 5th gen too )

Regardless of all that; you still have a car that weighs more and most of that extra weight is on the front axle... Mind you seeing as how almost all of the 2.0 is behind the front axle, I'd imagine the V6 would be even more so without that extra cylinder hanging over the axle...

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Old 11-10-2016, 02:18 PM   #70
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My thoughts exactly... Just picked a number ($10,000) and if you had to pay for shop time I think you would be in that ballpark... At least for a twin setup...I'm also thinking about that number in Cdn. funds
$6500 NH quoted sounds low. A very good friend of mine had her 2000 V6 Camaro twin turbocharged many years ago. She went with an extremely reputable LSx shop that cut her a great many breaks. Her kit looks factory and does not displace a single factory item. That took major work. She paid them over $12k USD. That was just the turbo parts and fab work. Did not include fuel system, trans, converter, driveshaft, rear, all of which needed to be upgraded. When you go that route, you're truly putting yourself into a world of hurt. You will end up nickle and diming yourself to the poor house!
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