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Agreed. It is a possibility on pump gas. But we will see lol. |
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It'll be on pump gas, but 91 octane for where I'm at
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Your car pulled 453 rwhp and 416 rwtq on ACN 91 and BONE STOCK? Meaning, absolutely ZERO mods? Just so everyone knows... I am not trying to talk negative about ANYONE'S builds or plans... |
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technically a supercharger like the procharger is a "bolt on". Cam is a bolt in... Don't know what an e85 tune would be a plugin..
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Well, the thing is... LT4 does have 550+ rwhp and rwtq, just doesn't exists in camaro form LOL, YET! With all the mods I have mentioned, once you add cams to it and possibly heads, you would hit 500+ on dynojet. Not without cams nor possibly without heads though. LOL! VERY true! I don't consider cams bolt on. As you do open up the engine... To me, bolt on is something you do without touching the internal engine. Ei: Not cams nor heads. Supercharger/procharger are indeed bolt on. |
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Still no dyno numbers for FBO ?
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S/Cs are bolt ons - as in bolt on another 10k to the cost of your newly devalued car! Anything that -requires- a tune to function is NOT a bolt on.
Atomic intake, CAI, catbacks and a tune are a great combo that can be returned back to stock easily when you eventually dump the car (and you will). Take it from a guy thats done F/I on 2 different cars he no longer owns - eternal waste of good $$$. |
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Care to elaborate on that a bit?
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I ran a 2015 GT mustang up to its peak of 700HP on a stage 3 edelbrock with high psi - it eventually blew up. Also S/C a 2013 Corvette GS and it never ran the same again - lots of torque spinning circles on the pavement. Totally useless power - ever price out premium tires on a Vette? I could put a down payment on a house for that. Some internal parts mixed in as well adding to the cost. All in all 25k in parts and shop time. The mustang (repaired) went to auction and sold for 25k for a 45k car (hence why I always say the SECOND you F/I, you have totally devalued your car as no one with an ounce of common sense will buy a used hacked up vehicle). Live and learn. I still find it amazing reading through these forums guys spending 40K+ on a brand new car, then immediately ripping out internals. Like driving from the lot directly to the chop shop. Not exactly a smart financial plan long term. If Im doing that, it will be a 2 year old model year costing 12K less which more than pays for the mods later. Sorry to be such a downer, but I regret both experiences...a ton of cash spent and nada to show for it. The plan moving forward is to mod only what I can return to stock easily when selling the car - youll get far more $$$ selling or trading. The chances of people here keeping their cars 10 years are pretty slim Im guessing....always something better coming out to play with! Dealers dont care about catback and forward exhaust much, but they do flag just about everything else as a downgrade.Im sticking with CAI, Axle back, tune and now thinking MSD Intake after seeing comments from vendor testing. Hell of a lot cheaper and my car wont be in the shop all the time getting fixed. <fingers crossed>. I spend more on my cars cosmetics than internals (yea, wasting money..ha) - rather have one that doesn't look like everyone elses cookie cutter Camaro. btw - Im pro F/I but only on factory installed cars - ZL1, Z06 (or something old that isnt a DD). You can grab more power DIY (maybe) but you will be grabbing more issues down the road guaranteed. Thats where factory installed systems shine - reliability. Last edited by DisturbedSS; 09-22-2016 at 06:50 PM. |
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I believe bob dyno'd somewhere around 470 to the wheels.
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I enjoyed the ZL1 more, even though stock it was quite a lot slower. It was fun to do it. Once.
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If that is your approach to buying/modding/selling cars then yes, YOU should totally stay away from forced induction. |
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never SC'd my own vehicle, but wonder if Heads/Cam leads to less buyers remorse
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