[BradfordCamaro]

Why is it assumed Sport Cup 2s are that superior to these new tires made for the 1LE?
Many of the tires known for being at the top are being matched by newer lower cost models being introduced. Technology and materials advance, tires a few years old become yesterdays news.
I doubt if you would see much improvement in lap times.
Let's not become fanboys and make excuses how we could've, would've should've.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Looks like this car could certainly benefit from a 3.91 rear axle ratio.

For sure...but the 3:73 is also good for shifting less. Depends on what track you will be at the most really.

The amazing front end grip this thing has is going to make for a monster on an autocross track...

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Why is it assumed Sport Cup 2s are that superior to these new tires made for the 1LE?
Many of the tires known for being at the top are being matched by newer lower cost models being introduced. Technology and materials advance, tires a few years old become yesterdays news.
I doubt if you would see much improvement in lap times.
Let's not become fanboys and make excuses how we could've, would've should've.

Have you ever tracked with Sport Cup 2's? They are amazing and I doubt, while good, the GY's are as good. Just look at the tread wear ratings...

...and by the way, talking about lap time differences due to tire, doesn't equate to being a "fan boy". If that's the case, is everyone at the track I hang out with fan boys for talking about time differences with different tires?

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by Ace01

1. McLaren 570S - 1:34.58 - $219.770
2. Mercedes-AMG GT S - 1:35.30 - $169,450
3. Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R - 1:36.11 - $66,990
4. BMW M4 GTS - 1:37.66 - $135,195
5. Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE - 1:37.78 - $45,700
6. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S - 1:41.77 - $211,910

I really wish they would have used the "base price" (including all relevant performance options) rather than "as tested". In the article they will probably include both.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Ace01

1. McLaren 570S - 1:34.58 - $219.770
2. Mercedes-AMG GT S - 1:35.30 - $169,450
3. Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R - 1:36.11 - $66,990
4. BMW M4 GTS - 1:37.66 - $135,195
5. Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE - 1:37.78 - $45,700
6. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S - 1:41.77 - $211,910

Look at those price differences lol...

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

1:37.78 at Laguna Seca is no joke...

Quicker than the last Z/28 1:37.82 (which had super sticky tires and CCB's) with the same driver at the wheel too...that alone is amazing.

Also quicker than the below cars, all with the same driver:

Corvette Z51 1:38.28
ATS-V Coupe 1:39.65
BMW M4 1:39.69
Aston Martin V12 Vantage S 1:41:77

Heck, even the super expensive ($135,000+), M4 GTS BARELY nipped it...at 1:37.66.

I love it, I already know how potent the SS 1LE is since owning a 6th Gen SS.. Tsk Tsk, this car is a track BEAST!

ATS-V and M4 are pretty identical to a regular SS, all 3 about ~2 seconds slower than the 6th Gen 1LE.

I always said the SS is about a 2-3 second delta slower between the 6th Gen 1LE. Would you guys agree on that?

While I'm building the SS I will use the SS 1LE as the benchmark comparo. Those that are purchasing this car from factory, this will be badass!

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

I always said the SS is about a 2-3 second delta slower between the 6th Gen 1LE. Would you guys agree on that?

Depends on what track...but I would say about 3 seconds or so behind at LS...

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Depends on what track...but I would say about 3 seconds or so behind at LS...

Yep.. these cars are def. a beast. I know you're excited but you ALREADY knew this car was going to kick some serious a**!

[Gen5er]

Would a small BHP bump in the 1LE destroy these other cars, while still staying under 50,000?

[slick3]

Originally Posted by Gen5er

Would a small BHP bump in the 1LE destroy these other cars, while still staying under 50,000?

Wait until the ZL1 lap time start coming out. Then aim somewhere right in the middle and that's what your small horsepower bump would probably look like. I take cam exhaust and use should net you around 500rwhp. Just remember there is a pro and con to everything. This car is already plenty fast as is. I will say though, being that the zl1 has the same Fe4 suspension and tires, the 1LE's chassis should still be rather composed with the additional power.

As RP always says " people always ask me what I wish the car had . I always tell them 100 more horsepower ."

Can't wait to get this car in my driveway and more importantly out to Willow Springs and Buttonwillow!

[cleoent]

Originally Posted by Gen5er

Would a small BHP bump in the 1LE destroy these other cars, while still staying under 50,000?

Needs a better transmission more than anything else. throughout the entire video i was annoyed at how long the gears are in the mt. With better transmission, Ccb, sport cup 2s this car goes toe to toe with gt350r without adding a single hp.

[HumanWiki]

Very nicely done.. I was telling people back in April up at Road America when they were asking about my Auto 2SS w/o 6pots doing as well as it did, to watch out once the 1LE and then the ZL1 come out... You're going to be in for a surprise if they took what my car was doing and added to it. At RA, I had no issues keeping up with and passing all kinds of people in my group on the stock pads/rotors on a track that's notorious for eating through brakes in a couple laps.

Once more and more people show up on courses with 1LEs, they're going to get noticed, a lot... For the price you pay to get one, there's simply not much else that's out there that you can go beat on, have a lot of fun, keep near and pass things you shouldn't and then drive it home on the same hardware and go to the grocery store.

[90503]

Originally Posted by Iron Oak

Interesting that Randy gigs the 1LE for "brake fade"....with six pots and larger rotors, cooling ducts, etc...that's somewhat of a surprise....Stock pads for street and spirited driving will probably be ok....but it sounds like aftermarket pads for track days might be needed...

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Why is it assumed Sport Cup 2s are that superior to these new tires made for the 1LE?
Many of the tires known for being at the top are being matched by newer lower cost models being introduced. Technology and materials advance, tires a few years old become yesterdays news.
I doubt if you would see much improvement in lap times.
Let's not become fanboys and make excuses how we could've, would've should've.

The Cup 2's are assumed to be a better tire because Michelin has been at the pinnacle of tire performance for decades and have much more sports car racing experience than Goodyear. Goodyear only sinks its money into Nascar and NHRA. There is a reason that the Sport Cup 2's are found on many of the top performing hyper cars. Do you really believe that porsche just slapped some Michelins on their prized 918 spyder and just called it a day? No way! They put time and effort into finding what tire provides the best performance. That being said, it sounds like these new goodyears are a step in the right direction and I hope that it will be similar to the 1LE in that it provides 90% of the performance of the big dog's at 50% the price, but I'm not naive enough to just believe that the latest Goodyear put on the performance Camaro is now the best tire on the market. By that logic Chevy should have put it on the Corvette Grand Sport, but it to is wearing sport cup 2's.

No excuses here. The 1LE ran what it ran. I'm more than happy with it. That being said I think sport cup 2's might be my first upgrade after I use up the stock goodyears.

Originally Posted by Gen5er

Would a small BHP bump in the 1LE destroy these other cars, while still staying under 50,000?

I wouldn't say destroy. I think some time could be shaved and it could get dangerously close to the GT350R's time with a slight rubber upgrade and a 3.91 axle ratio to replace the stock 3.73

Originally Posted by slick3

Wait until the ZL1 lap time start coming out. Then aim somewhere right in the middle and that's what your small horsepower bump would probably look like. I take cam exhaust and use should net you around 500rwhp. Just remember there is a pro and con to everything. This car is already plenty fast as is. I will say though, being that the zl1 has the same Fe4 suspension and tires, the 1LE's chassis should still be rather composed with the additional power.

As RP always says " people always ask me what I wish the car had . I always tell them 100 more horsepower ."

Can't wait to get this car in my driveway and more importantly out to Willow Springs and Buttonwillow!

I agree. We will see how much of and improvement a significant power upgrade will make with this car when the ZL1 is tested. I just hope its a 6 speed ZL1 so we can remove one additional variable from the equation.