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09-03-2016, 08:52 PM
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  Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Here is a snapshot of the runs for each. You will see the commanded EQ (white) and the WB (green) lines. If the MAF output is not skewed they should sit on top of one another. The Rotofab intake did NOT upset the MAF calibration in any meaningful way. I am very impressed and to be honest did not expect this.
Rotofab did an EXCELLENT job keeping the MAF from getting screwed up. The vertical cursor is where COT kicked in. |
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09-04-2016, 06:21 AM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Suffolk Long Island
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Concrete information here and when paired with dyno results will be irrefutable. Thanks for this testing process Tim anxiously awaiting final overall results.
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2016 Hyper Blue 2SS A8,NPP,Moonroof
Pray ported factory intake manifold Ported TB Rotofab ARH 1 7/8 longtubes hi flow cats AFM deleted E85 11.0@124.9 11.65@118.8 pump gas,stock tune/exhaust New combo: Pray Performance Heads/cam MSD intake manifold and Circle D 3C 554/491 on E85 all work & tuning done by Pray |
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09-04-2016, 07:04 AM
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Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Indy
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What about maf accuracy beneath the torque curve, where the system will spend most of its time? Great work!
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09-04-2016, 09:52 AM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016
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The part throttle area looked really good. Nothing to really comment on there.
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09-04-2016, 10:02 AM
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Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic 1SS M6 NPP Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Indiana
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Awesome information and results. I am truly happy with my Roto-Fab intake. Can't wait for all the numbers to come out from you and Lethal to give us all the numbers from all the way around. I have had no reservation that this intake would produce gains for our Camaro with all the R&D they done and took their time to release till they got it right to their satisfaction and decided in the end to go with a bigger box and filter. Thank you for taking the time to do this and giving us all the information on what is going on.
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2016 Hyper Blue Metallic 1SS M6 with body color hood vents, Silver broken 5 spoke wheels, NPP dual exhaust, Dark Night Interior Spectrum Lighting, Illuminated door sills plates. Upgrades include: Roto-Fab intake, Mishimoto catch can, MBRP cat-back Race exhaust, TSP 1 7/8 headers, EFI E85 Flex Fuel, MRR M017 graphite wheels with Nitto N555 G2 tires, Goodridge stainless steel brake lines, Powder coated Brembo calipers, BMR suspension, Eibach sport springs, Emblempros fender badges Order ID: TDHQMS 1100 on 01/07/2016 at Penske Chevrolet 6000 on 02/23/2016 Delivered to customer |
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09-04-2016, 11:14 AM
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Lethal Camaro
Drives: 16 2SS, 71 Std, Suburban RTS Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Temecula, CA
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Either or, just wondering what is happening. Doing a ton of runs today while I can. I want to make sure the car can cool and relearn the new systems. Unlike the dyno, I am doing 3 cold starts and drives and putting 30 miles between each system's install.
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09-04-2016, 11:41 AM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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The threshold when COT turns on is a calculated temperature of 1697F. Above that temperature it will start to progressively add more fuel to cool the cats. It starts out very small so impact is of really no consequence on a street blast.
I will be very curious to see your stock and Rotofab logs. I know you don't have a WB hooked up but I will be able to tell from the injector pulse widths if you are dumping extra fuel. |
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09-05-2016, 09:55 AM
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  Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Hilo, HI
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There so many acronyms now, it is almost like Greek. But I actually understood it all. LOL.
Thanks for the work. BTW 1 Kilo Pascal is .145 PSI which means one would expect about 1.1 percent HP improvement if flow / HP was directly related to more available air pressure at the TB or through the system / engine. I used 1 PSI worth 8% HP gain, which is on the high side of the forced induction expectations. I figure the gain we are seeing is not only a increase in flow but a reduction in pumping losses and an increase in air quality in terms of smoothness.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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09-05-2016, 02:18 PM
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Drives: 16 Camaro SS w/ Roto-fab CAI Join Date: May 2009
Location: Arizona
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Tsloper, thanks for taking the time to data log and provide your analysis on our system. I'm sure many of the forum members appreciate the results from third party testing - especially from someone recognized as being very knowledgeable in the field.
We strive to create the best product we can and it's nice to see our efforts are noticed. One of the interesting aspects of this business is the majority of our time and efforts are spent on the things our average customer never sees! However, these are the things which ensure good performance while operating within safe parameters for the vehicle. |
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09-06-2016, 01:06 PM
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Drives: Challenger Hellcat, 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2008
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Good stuff.
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09-06-2016, 03:03 PM
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Drives: 16 Camaro SS w/ Roto-fab CAI Join Date: May 2009
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09-06-2016, 06:29 PM
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Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Valrico, FL
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I installed mine and did some dyno runs with the same issue as the others. I will say that I definitely feel a SOTP difference on the street and I think the sound delete makes the car sound so much more natural overall. I'm very happy with my purchase and wouldn't consider going back!
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2013 ZL1 Auto Convertible - BRM
Best: 10.829@127.15 FI Interchiller, Roto-Fab CAI, Big Gulp & Res, 9.1/2.5 Pulleys, PB&S, DeatschWerks 1500cc, Fore triple pump, Pfadt LT's, RD HX, MT DR's New times to come with E85 2016 2SS Auto - Hyper Blue Metallic Roto-Fab CAI |
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09-06-2016, 06:55 PM
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Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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What issue specifically?
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09-06-2016, 07:07 PM
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Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2013
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2013 ZL1 Auto Convertible - BRM
Best: 10.829@127.15 FI Interchiller, Roto-Fab CAI, Big Gulp & Res, 9.1/2.5 Pulleys, PB&S, DeatschWerks 1500cc, Fore triple pump, Pfadt LT's, RD HX, MT DR's New times to come with E85 2016 2SS Auto - Hyper Blue Metallic Roto-Fab CAI |
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