Dyno Yesterday - Page 2

SuperSound · 08-23-2016, 04:38 PM

iPODFAN11 · 08-23-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blk16SS

IT depends on what your definition of stock is dude. I wouldn't consider plug wires a mod but that's just me...

They are not factory plug wires, they are aftermarket, hence they are a mod and thus rendering the car not 100% stock. That's along the same line of saying "my car is all stock except for ______ ." That word "EXCEPT" renders the car not stock anymore, be it a tune, headers, cat delete, wires, plugs, wheels, etc. Floor mats and other menial things? Who cares.

Blk16SS · 08-23-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by iPODFAN11

They are not factory plug wires, they are aftermarket, hence they are a mod and thus rendering the car not 100% stock. That's along the same line of saying "my car is all stock except for ______ ." That word "EXCEPT" renders the car not stock anymore, be it a tune, headers, cat delete, wires, plugs, wheels, etc. Floor mats and other menial things? Who cares.

Yeah who cares..

Blk16SS · 08-23-2016, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

You are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about if you think your car has a 20% parasitic loss and magically makes 30 more horsepower on an SAE certified engine than everyone else...

Furthermore, you have no clue about me either. I can guarantee I've owned more Camaros then you, and unlike most, I do most of my own work. I've tuned cars, and own HP Tuners software as well. I know what I'm talking about in regards to this.

Also, when did I say your numbers are low? That was another post, not mine. If anything I was trying to help you out by telling you dyno numbers are not a cure for all, and to just use them as a tuning tool as they are full of variables and you decide to jump down my neck like I called your car a POS or something?

Your point taken... The best of friends argue from time to time. And I fully agree the dyno is a tuning tool first. All other #'s are subject to standing on its own. This graph shows that my #s are in the ballpark and that's all I tried to state in my OP.

KoolHyperBlue · 08-23-2016, 07:58 PM

Hey OP just do a search on the forum and you will see stock 2SS with better pulls then you .

kc6gen · 08-23-2016, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blk16SS

It's actually an A8..... Haven't seen one past 400 rwhp. If so, that's like saying a stock A8 would be making 475-485 flywheel.

I did....421/441 to be exact

ZERO MODS

Correction was standard
Dino Dynamic
5 gear if I remember correct

And so far the fastest Stock one around KC

kc6gen · 08-23-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolHyperBlue

Hey OP just do a search on the forum and you will see stock 2SS with better pulls then you .

Thanks brother

TSloper · 08-23-2016, 08:46 PM

Some of you are just simply ignorant. Yes Dynojet corrects for weather conditions. What the Dynojet or any other dyno out there can't correct for is how the ECM or tune responds to a set of conditions.

The OP didn't list the ambient air temperature at the time of the runs but I'm going to assume it was hot like it is everywhere this summer. For you ignorant people out there the ECM will apply a timing adder based on IAT readings. There is one temperature range where the adder will be zero. Below this range it will add timing, above it will remove timing. If the IATs are high enough to subtract timing the torque output will be reduced and there isn't a damn thing the dyno SAE correction can do about it.

So comparing dyno runs across very different weather conditions is not apples to apples even if you do apply SAE correction. It can't account for how the tune responds.

OP... your car is right where it should be.

Those of you comparing readings from different dyno manufacturers altogether... you are being silly. The comparisons have no validity.

Wolvie70 · 08-23-2016, 08:56 PM

You guys really make people want to post their numbers, geez!

laynlo15 · 08-23-2016, 09:29 PM

Dyno's are for tuning, track time is where the balls hit the back seat. So, dyno means nothing in the real world, although I guess we can brag about it if we want. Dyno's are different, tuners can make it look better then it really is, so lets let it ride and not bitch at each other on who knows more then the other.

Imapayne24 · 08-23-2016, 09:29 PM

I pretty much had the same gain but as far as racing overall last night I pulled 3 car on a ctsv

Blk16SS · 08-23-2016, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSloper

Some of you are just simply ignorant. Yes Dynojet corrects for weather conditions. What the Dynojet or any other dyno out there can't correct for is how the ECM or tune responds to a set of conditions.

The OP didn't list the ambient air temperature at the time of the runs but I'm going to assume it was hot like it is everywhere this summer. For you ignorant people out there the ECM will apply a timing adder based on IAT readings. There is one temperature range where the adder will be zero. Below this range it will add timing, above it will remove timing. If the IATs are high enough to subtract timing the torque output will be reduced and there isn't a damn thing the dyno SAE correction can do about it.

So comparing dyno runs across very different weather conditions is not apples to apples even if you do apply SAE correction. It can't account for how the tune responds.

OP... your car is right where it should be.

Those of you comparing readings from different dyno manufacturers altogether... you are being silly. The comparisons have no validity.

92 degrees and humid as hell. Also the first pull was nearly ZERO cool down. Just the time it took to put it on the dyno which was about 20-30 mins. The second cool down was about 30-45 mins..

Evil-Bee-NH · 08-23-2016, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

You are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about if you think your car has a 20% parasitic loss and magically makes 30 more horsepower on an SAE certified engine than everyone else...

Furthermore, you have no clue about me either. I can guarantee I've owned more Camaros then you, and unlike most, I do most of my own work. I've tuned cars, and own HP Tuners software as well. I know what I'm talking about in regards to this.

Also, when did I say your numbers are low? That was another post, not mine. If anything I was trying to help you out by telling you dyno numbers are not a cure for all, and to just use them as a tuning tool as they are full of variables and you decide to jump down my neck like I called your car a POS or something?

^ Lives in florida worships Yankees and jets is anyone surprised by his irrational need to argue and be the one on top?

ULTRAZLS1 · 08-24-2016, 12:23 AM

It's not the 60s. Build tolerances are tight. All camaro SS cars are going to perform within a few percent of each other. No ones car is special or a factory freak. Only bad gas, differing dyno procedures (how tight the car is strapped down, tire pressure, calibration, conditions, engine temp at time of pull etc) .

Every properly running camaro SS is going to perform damn near the same. The end.

Sweet lookin car OP. Don't get hung up on the #s

08-23-2016, 04:38 PM	#15
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08-23-2016, 07:58 PM	#19
KoolHyperBlue Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS -NPP,Mag Ride Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 125	Hey OP just do a search on the forum and you will see stock 2SS with better pulls then you . Attached Images

08-23-2016, 08:46 PM	#22
TSloper Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mount Dora, FL Posts: 779	Some of you are just simply ignorant. Yes Dynojet corrects for weather conditions. What the Dynojet or any other dyno out there can't correct for is how the ECM or tune responds to a set of conditions. The OP didn't list the ambient air temperature at the time of the runs but I'm going to assume it was hot like it is everywhere this summer. For you ignorant people out there the ECM will apply a timing adder based on IAT readings. There is one temperature range where the adder will be zero. Below this range it will add timing, above it will remove timing. If the IATs are high enough to subtract timing the torque output will be reduced and there isn't a damn thing the dyno SAE correction can do about it. So comparing dyno runs across very different weather conditions is not apples to apples even if you do apply SAE correction. It can't account for how the tune responds. OP... your car is right where it should be. Those of you comparing readings from different dyno manufacturers altogether... you are being silly. The comparisons have no validity.

08-23-2016, 08:56 PM	#23
Wolvie70 Drives: 2016 2SS, Summit White, A8, NPP Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Arkansas Posts: 717	You guys really make people want to post their numbers, geez!

08-23-2016, 09:29 PM	#24
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	Dyno's are for tuning, track time is where the balls hit the back seat. So, dyno means nothing in the real world, although I guess we can brag about it if we want. Dyno's are different, tuners can make it look better then it really is, so lets let it ride and not bitch at each other on who knows more then the other.

08-23-2016, 09:29 PM	#25
Imapayne24 Drives: White with orange stripes Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Orlandi Posts: 18	I pretty much had the same gain but as far as racing overall last night I pulled 3 car on a ctsv

08-24-2016, 12:23 AM	#28
ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,421	It's not the 60s. Build tolerances are tight. All camaro SS cars are going to perform within a few percent of each other. No ones car is special or a factory freak. Only bad gas, differing dyno procedures (how tight the car is strapped down, tire pressure, calibration, conditions, engine temp at time of pull etc) . Every properly running camaro SS is going to perform damn near the same. The end. Sweet lookin car OP. Don't get hung up on the #s

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