[Raven87]

Originally Posted by Posaune

If it is a good ad. Not sure the dancing robots helped ATS sales.

Yes. And I have said more than once it has to be a GOOD ad campaign. And I meant advertising in general, not just TV but we all know that TV/VIDEO is the most powerful forum of all.

We've seen some really stupid stuff over the years for sure. The dancing robots is one of them.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Raven87

If you think ads do NOT improve sales, you are clearly not business savvy. If that is the case my friend, then why would Apple, GM, Ford, or any other large, successful corporation advertise?

And there have been commercials all along for Mustangs and Challengers, not just starting late last year. Where have you been???

If you are convinced that ads do NOT help sales - and yes, it must be a good ad campaign - then you obviously know more than the ad agencies and the businesses both. You better go tell them.

You should research more before you post.

When did I say it would not improve it? How many examples out there of ad campaigns for failed products, companies, and ideas? How many other ideas have been brought up in this thread for reasons the Camaro is not doing well? How many ads were around for the 5th gen Camaro? How did that affect it's sells? You are over simplifying things if you believe an ad campaign alone is the only thing holding the Camaro back. You've changed your mind about what is several times in thread. What makes you think you know any better than me or anyone else on this forum. I've been civil but obviously you believe you know more than anyone here. So why bother posting? We are all inferior to your knowledge of marketing, this segment, the economy, and any other aspect that drives sells.

Post some proof or your opinion is no better than mine next time.

[aestil]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Again, your area. If there are none in my area (which is the South where you can drive these cars all year) then what does that prove? Nothing, same as you saying there are ads in your area. There's no proof that ads are responsible for the Mustang's success, and certainly none proving that it is helping FCA sell significantly more Charger/Challengers. There's more proof the Hellcat is helping their sales. Again I'm not saying things don't need to change, but this fascination with TV spots leading to sales lacks any proof. If you can find some I'll be happy to change that opinion. But you don't sell 13k Mustangs, 9700 Camaros, and 7400 Challengers in April last year (which was peak for all 3 to date), months before any of these commercials came out and say there's a correlation.

There are billboards EVERYWHERE in SoCal for the Mustang. Also there are Mustangs EVERYWHERE in SoCal.

[Raven87]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

When did I say it would not improve it? How many examples out there of ad campaigns for failed products, companies, and ideas? How many other ideas have been brought up in this thread for reasons the Camaro is not doing well? How many ads were around for the 5th gen Camaro? How did that affect it's sells? You are over simplifying things if you believe an ad campaign alone is the only thing holding the Camaro back. You've changed your mind about what is several times in thread. What makes you think you know any better than me or anyone else on this forum. I've been civil but obviously you believe you know more than anyone here. So why bother posting? We are all inferior to your knowledge of marketing, this segment, the economy, and any other aspect that drives sells.

Post some proof or your opinion is no better than mine next time.

You just made my day my friend! I'm glad you agree that you need not bother posting and, that I am right!

Oh - and lighten up ok? Life is too short!

[nvrsatisfied]

To the non owner posters,

I'll make it easy. Chevrolet has been in business many years without your help and input, you are not the genius you think you are. It's so funny that most of the ones that post on this subject don't OWN a gen6, but feel they can tell those of us actual owners that our cars are not selling well. I have a great idea for this forum. There should be a sub forum for non gen6 owners to voice their opinions to other non owners, the rest of us can actually come here and discuss our cars/ideas with others that actually own the cars. I really hope they can make it possible

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by nvrsatisfied

To the non owner posters,

I'll make it easy. Chevrolet has been in business many years without your help and input, you are not the genius you think you are. It's so funny that most of the ones that post on this subject don't OWN a gen6, but feel they can tell those of us actual owners that our cars are not selling well. I have a great idea for this forum. There should be a sub forum for non gen6 owners to voice their opinions to other non owners, the rest of us can actually come here and discuss our cars/ideas with others that actually own the cars. I really hope they can make it possible

I want to congratulate you on something...I've been on this forum for a while, and several others..and this is one of the most arrogant, condescending, dismissive and snobbish posts I've seen in years.

If I was new to this forum and was thinking of getting a 6th Gen..this crap would really be unappealing. You're worse than thePill.

[nvrsatisfied]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

I want to congratulate you on something...I've been on this forum for a while, and several others..and this is one of the most arrogant, condescending, dismissive and snobbish posts I've seen in years.

If I was new to this forum and was thinking of getting a 6th Gen..this crap would really be unappealing. You're worse than thePill.

Thanks! I hope you are enjoying your gen6 as well. If I didn't own a gen6 but was interested in one, I would go to the gen6 forum to read what the actual owners think of thier car. All your negativity about the pricing and other gripes would not persuade anyone to buy a gen6. I just hope people listen to the actual owners with hands on experience of these wonderful cars.

[Marty McFlew]

Originally Posted by merlin803

Exactly. GM has stated that they moved to a plan to make higher profits for each car sold, along with reducing the low profit sales of fleet cars.

Only GM knows what sales number they were targeting and if they are happy or at least content with them.

We may really never know but nothing that they have said, at least publicly, has indicated that they are disappointed.

But, regardless, there are always going to be people that are butt hurt because there are more Mustangs sold.

Doesn't help the dealers much if sitting on the lots for 2 or 3 months gathering bird shidt.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by MovieGuy

Maybe it's because I had a 2014 S197, but I see very little similarity between the new generation and the older generation. The front looks like a fusion, the side looks like some European thing, and the rear slants in. I still don't like the new generation. I still feel it wandered too far from the retro look.

I see the new Mustang as every bit an evolution of the previous car as the Camaro. It's very attractive but not a departure from the same look Ford has been emulating since 1968

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

Doesn't help the dealers much if sitting on the lots for 2 or 3 months gathering bird shidt.

No it doesn't. Can't speak for every area but like I said earlier, the 10 closest dealerships to me have 0-3 of every iteration of 6th Gen.

Not exactly busting at the seams with 6th Gens and I drove by 2 dealerships today that did not have any 6th Gens in site from the street.

[nvrsatisfied]

Originally Posted by hotlap

I see the new Mustang as every bit an evolution of the previous car as the Camaro. It's very attractive but not a departure from the same look Ford has been emulating since 1968

My 15 GT reminded me of my 68 fastback. The long hood and the gauges were the selling point for me. I just hated the transmission and that floaty feeling

[Marty McFlew]

Originally Posted by nvrsatisfied

Exactly!

They could sell a shidt load more if they just did simple add like this for the 2016. How many people can look at this without buying one?

[nvrsatisfied]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

They could sell a shidt load more if they just did simple add like this for the 2016. How many people can look at this without buying one?

That is a cool video!

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

They could sell a shidt load more if they just did simple add like this for the 2016. How many people can look at this without buying one?

I can just imagine a commercial like that would have at least me thinking holy crap!

Motor Trend Car of the year flashes across the screen
0-60 in 4 seconds then flashes across the screen
Lighter...meaner...class leading handling and performance...


And then the video of a 6th Gen tearing up the pavement