[spideronjuice]

GM you just showed your butt naked a*s in the great State of Texas! sign me up.

[Z_Rocks]

Is there going to be Gas Guzzler tax on this baby?

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

It's never less than their "estimated numbers".
My guess is that it'll be rated at 650 like the Corvette...but I've been wrong before. I would be quite shocked if it produced more power than the Z06...though it's been said that the company isn't "protecting" the Corvette for any reason.

That is awesome. It would really be something else if it has more power/torque than the Corvette. I would be impressed. I'm going to go with my gut and the sounds and sights of the video of the '17 ZL1 going around the track with the GM guy at the wheel, that it is going to have more power than the Corvette. Meaning,......more power for the Corvette next model year. I may be wrong, but I'm going with my gut here. (Always go with your gut, right? )
I really do like the car. I said it before and I'll say it again,........I'm not too crazy about that rear spoiler though. A spoiler like the 1LE would be killer.

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

Is there going to be Gas Guzzler tax on this baby?

I'm going to "assume", yes.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

Is there going to be Gas Guzzler tax on this baby?

Originally Posted by tones2SS

I'm going to "assume", yes.

Well I do not believe the Z06 has the GG Tax so at least with the 10 speed auto it may also get by without one, who knows at this point though.

[Callaway Chris]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Well I do not believe the Z06 has the GG Tax so at least with the 10 speed auto it may also get by without one, who knows at this point though.

From the Chevy Website, it DOES have a Gas Guzzler Tax:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-z06-supercar.html

It was $1,300 on the Z06.

***The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price excludes tax, title, license, dealer fees and optional equipment. Includes destination freight charge and gas guzzler tax.

Looks like earlier ZL1s had Gas Guzzler penalties (tax) too:
https://www3.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b13037.pdf

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Callaway Chris

From the Chevy Website, it DOES have a Gas Guzzler Tax:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-z06-supercar.html

It was $1,300 on the Z06.



Looks like earlier ZL1s had Gas Guzzler penalties (tax) too:
https://www3.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b13037.pdf

Yes it did! I had to pay.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Callaway Chris

From the Chevy Website, it DOES have a Gas Guzzler Tax:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-z06-supercar.html

It was $1,300 on the Z06.



Looks like earlier ZL1s had Gas Guzzler penalties (tax) too:
https://www3.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b13037.pdf

The chevy mobile site I checked on the "build your own" did not show one..but on the Chevy SS it showed the $1300. That is why I thought it might not have one. Oh well, thanks for correcting me.

I went back and on the manual no GG tax showed up but when I did a automatic it added the $1300 GG tax.

[Mr. Wyndham]

The Z06 manual transmission barely squeaks by without the gas guzzler tax. The Z06 automatic does not.

The ZL1 will weigh more than that car.

More than likely, with the track-oriented gearing the manual transmission will not escape the GG tax...no idea if the 10 speed will make a big enough difference to escape it.

[libertyforall]

I do want this car, but missing is Wireless CarPlay -- where is that GM?

Yea, also what about a 7 speed manual? Also, how does a 10-speed auto work on the track -- is it always hunting around looking for a gear? That is a concern I have...

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

The Z06 even with Z07 package ($88k) doesn't quite match up to the ACR ($121k)in price or performance. The Z06 is priced on par with the SRT base model. The ACR offers insane track performance but simply isn't as appealing overall. After next year the Viper is nixed anyhow due to abysmal sales. Chevrolet sold 8,000 Z06's last year while Dodge sold only 600 Vipers at massive discounts.

Do we really want to get into the price p'ing contest. If so isn't the Hellcat 20K+ cheaper than the Z06, and I don't think it has overheating issues.

Presently Dodge offers the premier track vehicle ACR, and the premier straight line vehicle Hellcat. So whether you want to go fast on a track, street, top-end, or 1/4 mile the fastest American cars are presently offered by Dodge until somebody bumps them.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by libertyforall

I do want this car, but missing is Wireless CarPlay -- where is that GM?

Yea, also what about a 7 speed manual? Also, how does a 10-speed auto work on the track -- is it always hunting around looking for a gear? That is a concern I have...

Have you watched the videos? Looks like the 10 spd does fine to me on the track.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Do we really want to get into the price p'ing contest. If so isn't the Hellcat 20K+ cheaper than the Z06, and I don't think it has overheating issues.

Presently Dodge offers the premier track vehicle ACR, and the premier straight line vehicle Hellcat. So whether you want to go fast on a track, street, top-end, or 1/4 mile the fastest American cars are presently offered by Dodge until somebody bumps them.

Showroom stock cars, Dodge says the Hellcat runs low 11s in the 1/4th mile. GM says the Z06 runs high 10s. I'll admit the new ACR is definitely fastest around most tracks (but we don't have a comparision to the Ford GT, yet), but I wouldn't call the Hellcat the fastest at the strip. All this street stuff is a bit ridiculous as there are no standards. Making claims about swapping tires is also invalid. After all, one could say swapping the pulley and tuning the Z06 would be an easy change, too. Dodge doesn't sell the car with sticky tires (for whatever reason) anymore that GM sells the Z06 with more boost.

[Denis]

all of this talk about the ZL1 vs the Hellcat. Don't forget about this comparison.



the outgoing ZL1 and the Hellcat are evenly matched in the real world. So subtract 200 lbs and add more power to the ZL1 and it sounds like the Hellcat will be bested by the Z. But only time will tell.