[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by RenegadeXR

Well, there's one big problem. I'm sure this announcement is partially for the 50th anniversary celebration, but it goes strongly against Al O's campaign to basically counter everything Ford does. They'd be going out of lockstep to introduce the ZL1 this early on before the new Mustang GT 500 comes out. It gives Ford an opportunity to outdo them.

It doesn't really matter when the ZL1 comes out. The reality is the only engine GM has left is the LT4, so it kind of narrows the performance window down.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Will someone be posting info here on the release like when the 1LE was released?

Yes.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

The order is correct. 12 ZL1 => 13 GT500 => 14 Z/28 => 15/16 GT350 => 17 ZL1

The GT500 came out in 2007.

[BlueSteel07]

Originally Posted by Sidedraft

A C5 is a Corvette.

Yes, I know that. I was referring to Camaro 5. I guess I could have called it a 2012-2015 ZL1

[BlueSteel07]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

It doesn't really matter when the ZL1 comes out. The reality is the only engine GM has left is the LT4, so it kind of narrows the performance window down.

Hopefully Ford does what they did last time and announces the GT500 soon after the ZL1. Hopefully with a TT 5.0 producing over 700 HP.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by BlueSteel07

Yes, I know that. I was referring to Camaro 5. I guess I could have called it a 2012-2015 ZL1

"Gen 5", and "Gen 6" are universally understood for the generations around here.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I have a hard time seeing Chevy rating the LT4 in the ZL1 less than 650 HP. Relative to the last GT500 (662) and Hellcat (707) it's already low. Its going to be a terror on the track and a match on the strip.

The ZL1 won't make more than the Z06. It doesn't matter the GT500 and Hellcat make.

Originally Posted by Raven87

While horsepower is great for bragging rights it is definitely not everything. A balanced and light(er)weight platform is just as important - if not more so - especially for people who actually track their car.

A 640 HP ZL1 that weighs 600 lbs less than a 707 HP Hellcat will have a much better HP:Weight ratio and at the end of the day will dominate the hellcat with equal drivers.

Should be a very interesting day.

The issue is not the Hellcat. That car is already out. The issue is the next GT500. It won't weight 4500 lbs and it won't be on 275 tires.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I believe what we are seeing will be called ZL1.

I believe that you are wanting a NA engine for Z28...right? On that, I think it is quite possible they start with a ZL1 and add a "Track Pack" and call it Z28 ala GT350 to GT350R. This becuase we don't know of an NA engine that would go in it - now if they are developing an NA, then that would truly be awesome for the next Z28 - I'm just not sure if the last Z28 was a sales success, if not, they may not want to put the coin into developing it outside of what I've described.

IDK...just thinking on keyboard.

I is the Z/28 should be an n/a, track focused car or nothing at all.

The Z/28 and Z28 badge has been screwed with enough over it's lifetime. If they can't build a Z/28, then leave it alone. The previous ZL1 didn't come with a track pack, so I don't see this one coming with a track pack either.

[BlueSteel07]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The ZL1 won't make more than the Z06. It doesn't matter the GT500 and Hellcat make.



The issue is not the Hellcat. That car is already out. The issue is the next GT500. It won't weight 4500 lbs and it won't be on 275 tires.

How is the GT500 an issue? Competition is what makes these cars better and keeps the prices down. The hellcat is a great car except for the 275 tires and will compete very nicely against the ZL1 (in a straight line) especially from a roll. If the GT500 comes out I'm sure it will beat the Camaro in some performance metrics (especially straights if it comes with an automatic), but I don't care, as long as these high performance cars keep getting manufactured I'm happy.

[GoneBoy]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I believe what we are seeing will be called ZL1.

I believe that you are wanting a NA engine for Z28...right? On that, I think it is quite possible they start with a ZL1 and add a "Track Pack" and call it Z28 ala GT350 to GT350R. This becuase we don't know of an NA engine that would go in it - now if they are developing an NA, then that would truly be awesome for the next Z28 - I'm just not sure if the last Z28 was a sales success, if not, they may not want to put the coin into developing it outside of what I've described.

IDK...just thinking on keyboard.

That's an interesting, but possible scenario. Maybe delete some of the weight heavy creature comforts and rear seats. It wouldn't even be a fair contest to pit such a machine against the gt350r

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Will someone be posting info here on the release like when the 1LE was released?

Oh for sure, and there will be about 20 different new threads of the same stuff. lol.

I am gonna be waiting till 12:01am eastern time tonight and see if any info will be released. I have a feeling Mr. Wyndham or Tran or FenwickHockey65 has a full thread on this just waiting to post for the official launch due to NDA lol.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Tr6

Oh for sure, and there will be about 20 different new threads of the same stuff. lol.

I am gonna be waiting till 12:01am eastern time tonight and see if any info will be released. I have a feeling Mr. Wyndham or Tran or FenwickHockey65 has a full thread on this just waiting to post for the official launch due to NDA lol.

It's like we've been through this before, or something....

[SSport16]

Originally Posted by BlueSteel07

Hopefully its not overpriced. I wonder if it will make the used C5 ZL1's a lot cheaper since people will be trading them in which will increase supply?

The next ZL1 with start in the $60's is my guess, guessing around $70K loaded.

[JoeP@TeamBeckyD]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

It's like we've been through this before, or something....

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