Motor Trend Head 2 Head: 2016 Camaro SS vs BMW M4 - Page 4

Eric SS · 02-25-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

I must be the only guy cross-shopping the new 1LE and M2

Nope. Just spoke to my dealer about the M2 when my current lease is up next month. Long list and you're gonna pay over MSRP for one. I passed very quick. I'm happy because I really want a 2017 Camaro but I'm a sucker and probably would have considered the M2 right away if the price was right.

2cnd chance · 02-25-2016, 08:11 PM

I'm surprised at the Camaro's front/rear weight distribution. I think that and the narrow front tires created an understeering issue. Based on the superior stats understeer is probably what caused it to be a little slower around the track.

Whitespeed · 02-25-2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

What were the 'price as tested'?

Here it's 45K for a 1SS and 65K for the M4.

I just looked up the M4 and it's $77,868 CDN to start with freight, pdi, etc!!!

Nigel

CamaroBody · 02-25-2016, 08:49 PM

bmw going from a v8 in the m3 coupe to 6 cylinder in the m4 was a huge mistake

The Idiocracy · 02-25-2016, 09:05 PM

But the M4 kills the M3 in all metrics. So how big of a mistake was it really?

Eric SS · 02-25-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroBody

bmw going from a v8 in the m3 coupe to 6 cylinder in the m4 was a huge mistake

I disagree. The I6 is so much more streetable and torquey than the V8 was.

pilot996 · 02-25-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

I must be the only guy cross-shopping the new 1LE and M2.. that comparison will never happen

No, not really. I don't need a 1LE but the M2 (and m235) just seems so small. M4 prices out of range. BMW: I want to like them; I do. The woman just traded in a z4 for an mx3 or x3m or whatever they want to call it. It is a beautiful car but it just priced about 10k more that I could justify.... As did the former. If prices were equal, it would be a toss up between the M2 and SS but they aren't so, if I buy a car this spring, I will get an SS.

fradaj · 02-25-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BahamaTodd

$46k and $81k

Even the next ZL1 or Z/28 should be well under $81K.

SS 1LE · 02-26-2016, 12:20 AM

Good job GM.

MT should have listed the correct BASE price, not a 2SS starting price.

The regular SS is over a second quicker than a Mustang GT with the performance pack. Just wait till the SS 1LE comes out, I predict a 1:20.xx...like FOUR seconds quicker then it's direct competitor lol.

EE7 · 02-26-2016, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Good job GM.

MT should have listed the correct BASE price, not a 2SS starting price.

The regular SS is over a second quicker than a Mustang GT with the performance pack. Just wait till the SS 1LE comes out, I predict a 1:20.xx...like FOUR seconds quicker then it's direct competitor lol.

Does anyone remember all of the crap spewed by the mustang fanboys saying how the ss was going to suck around a track and be slower than the mustang? The way a lot of them talk they think the mustang is just as fast or faster than an m4..... Great job GM!

hotlap · 02-26-2016, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pilot996

No, not really. I don't need a 1LE but the M2 (and m235) just seems so small. M4 prices out of range. BMW: I want to like them; I do. The woman just traded in a z4 for an mx3 or x3m or whatever they want to call it. It is a beautiful car but it just priced about 10k more that I could justify.... As did the former. If prices were equal, it would be a toss up between the M2 and SS but they aren't so, if I buy a car this spring, I will get an SS.

I looked close at the M2 also. Its not only price. When the seat is adjusted for a 6'-4" driver, the arm rest ends at your forearm and the b pillar is just aft of your ear. With 0 to 60 mph of 4.4 sec.

Cost was
$51,700 MSRP base
$500 ---metalic paint
$1,250 -executive package (heated seats/steering wheel)
$2,900 -DCT (auto Trans)

Camaro is more comfortable, performs better and costs less. Also consider higher maintenance cost of BMW. Camaro is a better value and a better car.

At the end of the H2H they said the only negatives of the SS were the bow tie and Camaro tag. GM appears to be trying to move up market. Keep building cars like this and perceptions will change. The professional reviewers see it so

Bluecyclone · 02-26-2016, 08:14 AM

I just wish the trains would "Deliver" so we could see more Camaro's on the Streets! Dang, I drove to Houston from Victoria,Tx. yesterday and saw "0" 2016 Camaro's! Frick, where are these new "badass" Camaro's!!

2016SS · 02-26-2016, 08:59 AM

The price difference is crazy shows how much of a performance bargain the Camaro really is!

wouldn't take much to edge out the m4 on the track slight suspension mod different tires maybe? So close it would be a drivers race for sure!

Still rather save the money buy a Camaro and buy a used bmw with the money left over for a winter beater!

huggercamaro21 · 02-26-2016, 10:41 AM

Was Randy P the one who ran the laps?

02-25-2016, 08:11 PM	#44
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	I'm surprised at the Camaro's front/rear weight distribution. I think that and the narrow front tires created an understeering issue. Based on the superior stats understeer is probably what caused it to be a little slower around the track. __________________

02-26-2016, 08:14 AM	#54
Bluecyclone Drives: 2014 Cyclone mustang Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Port Lavaca,Tx. Posts: 355 View My Garage	I just wish the trains would "Deliver" so we could see more Camaro's on the Streets! Dang, I drove to Houston from Victoria,Tx. yesterday and saw "0" 2016 Camaro's! Frick, where are these new "badass" Camaro's!! __________________ 2014 Cyclone/Select Shift/"/Sold 2016 ruby red GT w/3.55:1/resonator delete X- pipe/UPR catch can/Airaid "tube"W/AEM/J&M/BigWorm/BMR /SVE /ZL1addons/Redline/Steeda/BG fluids/

02-26-2016, 08:59 AM	#55
2016SS Drives: 2016 Summit White 2SS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ontario Posts: 423	The price difference is crazy shows how much of a performance bargain the Camaro really is! wouldn't take much to edge out the m4 on the track slight suspension mod different tires maybe? So close it would be a drivers race for sure! Still rather save the money buy a Camaro and buy a used bmw with the money left over for a winter beater! __________________ 2003 Cadillac CTS Sold 2006 Nissan 350Z Sold 2008 Cobalt SS/TC Sold 2016 Camaro 2SS Summit built 3/28/16 delivered 2018 Camaro ZL1 cancelled by GM 😡 2019 Corvette 2lt Z51

02-26-2016, 10:41 AM	#56
huggercamaro21 Sales Manager for Chevy Drives: Tahoe RST Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,313	Was Randy P the one who ran the laps? __________________ 2016 2SS Nightfall Grey Metallic, Adrenaline Red interior, auto, NPP, MRC, and Nav. Killed 06/23/2016 #2 2016 Red Hot 2SS, A8, NPP, MRC, Nav, and Sunroof. VIN #115750

02-25-2016, 08:49 PM	#46
CamaroBody Drives: Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA Posts: 1,163	bmw going from a v8 in the m3 coupe to 6 cylinder in the m4 was a huge mistake

02-25-2016, 09:05 PM	#47
The Idiocracy Drives: 2016 Black SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 234	But the M4 kills the M3 in all metrics. So how big of a mistake was it really?

02-26-2016, 12:20 AM	#51
SS 1LE マスタング = 遅い Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 7,061	Good job GM. MT should have listed the correct BASE price, not a 2SS starting price. The regular SS is over a second quicker than a Mustang GT with the performance pack. Just wait till the SS 1LE comes out, I predict a 1:20.xx...like FOUR seconds quicker then it's direct competitor lol.

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