[fastball]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

I don't need it lasting 200,000 miles either. I bought a performance car, not a Civic. I want to seal the rings as best as possible.

That's your opinion and its your car. But when someone asks about break in on this forum, I'm trying to give the general public average Joe whom the VAST majority of Camaros are sold to, the proper way to break in their car.

There are plenty of forums for racing and "engine builds".

This forum is for Camaro buyers driving their cars stock, or with some mods, but as a primary everyday driver.

For those asking, follow the owners manual for proper break in.

You are free to do whatever you want for your car. I'm just giving the average Joe the right advice.

[cartem2]

Originally Posted by nyrfan

I'm going to leave rubber at the dealer when I pick it up as a thank you for a great car! Then the next day it will go to FSP for some "fine tuning"!

Anyway there are hundreds of posts on this OP, split about 50/50. I suggest you read, read, read, then read some more and then drive that bitch like you stole it!!! Lol

Prime example of why I would never buy a use sports cars, self centered jerks who could care less about how they are effecting the engin long term.

Originally Posted by fastball

The break in procedure manufacturers advise is for the best long term reliability.

If you're getting rid of your cars under the factory warranty then have at it.

Those like me intending to keep it 10 years and 150,000+ miles those first 1500 break in miles are the most important.

This shows everyone the gamble of buying a used sports car. Who knows if the first owner followed the break in procedure.

[tayljones6]

I broke my car in per the owners manual. I bought it Saturday and finished today with a trip from Fort Worth Texas to Orlando Florida. It was very difficult not to push the car especially the last 50 miles but I am glad I did it. I did the same to my Chevy Malibu 08 and had zero mechanical issues for the almost 200,000 miles on her

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by fastball

That's your opinion and its your car. But when someone asks about break in on this forum, I'm trying to give the general public average Joe whom the VAST majority of Camaros are sold to, the proper way to break in their car.

There are plenty of forums for racing and "engine builds".

This forum is for Camaro buyers driving their cars stock, or with some mods, but as a primary everyday driver.

For those asking, follow the owners manual for proper break in.

You are free to do whatever you want for your car. I'm just giving the average Joe the right advice.

If the average joe wants to know how to break in his engine he can look in the owners manual. This is an ENTHUSIAST site for PERFORMANCE cars.

Originally Posted by cartem2

Prime example of why I would never buy a use sports cars, self centered jerks who could care less about how they are effecting the engin long term.

that's like not having sex with your girlfriend so it's a better time for her next boyfriend

[pdoherty972]

Originally Posted by nyrfan

It's not like it's a new engine, I'm not too worried about it. Besides my SS is 38 months old and I only have 11K miles. If I wait to 10k that will be 2.5 years from now. Lol

Huh?

[cartem2]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

that's like not having sex with your girlfriend so it's a better time for her next boyfriend

Actually it's more like not beating the hell out of you're girl friend so she stays with you for a long and happy relationship...

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by cartem2

Actually it's more like not beating the hell out of you're girl friend so she stays with you for a long and happy relationship...

Umm no it isn't. Using the car within its limits does not mean you're beating the hell out of it. Not changing the fluids, using cheap gas, using conventional oil, off roading or towing, and bouncing it off the limiter is beating the hell out of it.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

The people who design it don't write the manual. Drive it hard.

I'm pretty sure the Tech Writers get input from design engineers, etc. as to what to write. You think they know all there is to know about these cars and just write what they thing is correct?

Follow the Owner's Manual, OP. That 1,500 miles will be over before you know it - then it will be playtime!

[nyrfan]

Originally Posted by fastball

The break in procedure manufacturers advise is for the best long term reliability.

If you're getting rid of your cars under the factory warranty then have at it.

Those like me intending to keep it 10 years and 150,000+ miles those first 1500 break in miles are the most important.

This shows everyone the gamble of buying a used sports car. Who knows if the first owner followed the break in procedure.

Originally Posted by cartem2

Prime example of why I would never buy a use sports cars, self centered jerks who could care less about how they are effecting the engin long term.

Lets talk longevity. The person that purchased my LLT back in Nov of 2012 with 20K miles just passed 130K miles. He's had zero issues, zero oil burn and has only had to replace normal wear parts.

Like I said earlier, 50% will say one way, 50% the other. Until there are "proven" facts to show one is better them the other it's all a matter of preference.

Oh and cartem, again please point me to the data that shows me being a "self centered jerk" for driving the car I paid for in the 1st 1500 miles they way I choose having long terms effects on the engine. Again I want to see actual data!!

Fact: in the end, we can all agree to disagree!

[fastball]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

If the average joe wants to know how to break in his engine he can look in the owners manual. This is an ENTHUSIAST site for PERFORMANCE cars

It's a forum for intelligent, knowledgeable discussion about the 6th gen Camaro specifically. Not about all performance cars - there's hundreds of forums about them if you like.

Yes there's enthusiasts on this forum as well but we try to keep it 6th gen Camaro specific, and try to give good advice to everyone.

Good advice to those who are asking is to follow the manual for break in.

Every time you try to tell someone not to I promise to follow it up that you're wrong because frankly I don't want this forum to get a reputation of having members who don't know what they're talking about.

Stop it.

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by fastball

It's a forum for intelligent, knowledgeable discussion about the 6th gen Camaro specifically. Not about all performance cars - there's hundreds of forums about them if you like.

Yes there's enthusiasts on this forum as well but we try to keep it 6th gen Camaro specific, and try to give good advice to everyone.

Good advice to those who are asking is to follow the manual for break in.

Every time you try to tell someone not to I promise to follow it up that you're wrong because frankly I don't want this forum to get a reputation of having members who don't know what they're talking about.

Stop it.

Okay Mr. Automotive genius. Explain to me, mechanically, why I am wrong for recommending a hard break in? Because I can give multiple reasons as to why I'm right. "Uhhhhh GM said so" is not a reason. Neither is "uhhhhhh it's in the owners manual".

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

I'm pretty sure the Tech Writers get input from design engineers, etc. as to what to write. You think they know all there is to know about these cars and just write what they thing is correct?

Follow the Owner's Manual, OP. That 1,500 miles will be over before you know it - then it will be playtime!

Yeah they do, but if law steps in and says you need to do this to cover your ass, they do it.

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by nyrfan

Lets talk longevity. The person that purchased my LLT back in Nov of 2012 with 20K miles just passed 130K miles. He's had zero issues, zero oil burn and has only had to replace normal wear parts.

Like I said earlier, 50% will say one way, 50% the other. Until there are "proven" facts to show one is better them the other it's all a matter of preference.

Oh and cartem, again please point me to the data that shows me being a "self centered jerk" for driving the car I paid for in the 1st 1500 miles they way I choose having long terms effects on the engine. Again I want to see actual data!!

Fact: in the end, we can all agree to disagree!

There is no data. There also is no evidence backing up the GM break in besides "uhhhhhh they said so".

[fastball]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Okay Mr. Automotive genius. Explain to me, mechanically, why I am wrong for recommending a hard break in? Because I can give multiple reasons as to why I'm right. "Uhhhhh GM said so" is not a reason. Neither is "uhhhhhh it's in the owners manual".

Glad I'm never buying a car used - no, abused - by you.

Common sense tells you not to abuse a brand new engine, let alone mfg recommendations.