[BlkCamaroVert]

Originally Posted by RenegadeSS

That is exactly what I hear all the time. I also hear "why put so much money into a six"?

Piston envy makes people do strange things.

[aa406079]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Have I logged onto the wrong forum? I wait 40 years to get a true muscle car, join a Camaro forum and now we're talking the virtues of a 4 cylinder car? (some at least) I've driven weak offerings from almost everyone over the years because I rent a lot. Most 4 CYL cars are borderline dangerous they're so slow. Just one man's opinion but I think modding a 4 banger for performance is pointless unless it was some kind of racing mandate or something.

I for one don't welcome the future. In fact, I may have bought my last car!

When your knowledge of 4 cylinder cars is limited to lowest trim rentals cars... I would listen more and speak less.

Turbo direct injection 4's of the last 5 years are nothing like a base naturally aspirated 4 banger....

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by RenegadeSS

My car is far from stock. I have a full flow master exhaust from an SS, SS BBK highflow cat, BBK headers and intake, RX performance catch can, Plenum and intake spacer, Eagle eye headlight with switch back turn signals. blacked out tail light surround, with heritage grill, and the trunk heritage stripe. I am also the only LS with heated leather seats. I also have a grant steering wheel, barton short throw shifter, and TWM weighted big type R shiftnob. Far from stock my friend.

My 2010 LLT was similar...nearly all bolt ons (except headers...wanted them but I had that feeling that the car would be sold eventually, so I never took the time to put them on figuring I'd have to pull them off when I sold the car) and tuned. Also lots of changes to the look of the car.

The combination of my car being an ABM (just that alone made it more unique) and modified got it a fair amount of attention at shows. I think it also surprised some folks when they read my description and learned the little V6 was pushing in excess of 330+ HP....but the fact remains that since it was a V6...to many it just wasn't as cool.

But I would have never traded that car for just any SS. Not that I live in an area with a lot of modded Camaros, but I think my car looked better than most of the other 5th gens around here....it was lowered with wider rims...nice and aggressive and looked sweet.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Hope to get the next car faster then the S, red with nothing on her, we got to start some where, and if i blow it up have a fresh bullet to drop in.

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

I'm seeing history repeat itself as there are already ecoboost Mustangs on the streets around here. Sounding like crap and not really going anywhere fast.

Running 11.4 on the stock turbo is crazy to think about, especially when those cars have run at the same power level safely for 10k+ miles. Please do a little research before making yourself look like an idiot. I expect similar performances from the 2.0 Camaro. It amazes me how stupid someone can be, and still be allowed to roam the streets. A conspiracy? Please.

[BlkCamaroVert]

Originally Posted by Brad.

Running 11.4 on the stock turbo is crazy to think about, especially when those cars have run at the same power level safely for 10k+ miles. Please do a little research before making yourself look like an idiot. I expect similar performances from the 2.0 Camaro. It amazes me how stupid someone can be, and still be allowed to roam the streets. A conspiracy? Please.

Me thinks your account isn't long for this world.

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by BlkCamaroVert

Me thinks your account isn't long for this world.

I am going to pretend your failed attempt at a witty response doesn't reflect the single digit IQ I perceive you to have. Please don't reply if you have nothing of interest or relevance to add.

[GTIanZ28]

Quite a bit of bickering already.

The important points.

A simple tune on the turbo 4 will probably net an additional 20 hp/tq. Exhaust/intake and tune will be an additional 30 hp/tq. Stepping up to a slightly larger turbo and inter cooler will probably turn these "puny 4 bangers" into 12 second 450+ hp cars.

The aftermarket will be far more aggressive and abundent for the turbo 4 cyl vs the 6. I have a feeling that the v6 is going to end up being the black sheep as far as modifications go. The potential of a small turbo 4 is just too great for the tuners to pass up. Whereas the v6 only achieves modest gains $ for $ vs a turbo 4.

[BlkCamaroVert]

Originally Posted by GTIanZ28

Quite a bit of bickering already.

The important points.

A simple tune on the turbo 4 will probably net an additional 20 hp/tq. Exhaust/intake and tune will be an additional 30 hp/tq. Stepping up to a slightly larger turbo and inter cooler will probably turn these "puny 4 bangers" into 12 second 450+ hp cars.

The aftermarket will be far more aggressive and abundent for the turbo 4 cyl vs the 6. I have a feeling that the v6 is going to end up being the black sheep as far as modifications go. The potential of a small turbo 4 is just too great for the tuners to pass up. Whereas the v6 only achieves modest gains $ for $ vs a turbo 4.

Is there a weight savings?

[mikeSS]

As for those people who say you can get x amount of power from tuning it. most people are not tuning. they are buying the 4 cylinder because they just want camaro, and they dont care what engine. my sister was just car shopping this summer test drove a 4 cylinder mustang and v6 jeep grand cherokee. she went with the jeep.

on to another point. my biggest problem with the 4 cylinder is the sound. you are buying a car that is perceived to the general public has a modern muscle car. i am not saying 4 cylinders sound bad, or 6 cylinders for that matter. a 4 cylinder turbo doesn't belong in a camaro, no matter how much power it has.

with all that said. the new 4 cylinders cars will be without a doubt successful. because most people buying a camaro are more into the novelty of owning a camaro for what it is, rather than what it can do.

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

As for those people who say you can get x amount of power from tuning it. most people are not tuning. they are buying the 4 cylinder because they just want camaro, and they dont care what engine. my sister was just car shopping this summer test drove a 4 cylinder mustang and v6 jeep grand cherokee. she went with the jeep.

on to another point...

I agree. Anyone purchasing the base engine probably cares very little about performance or modifications, and is strictly buying the name. However your first point's "evidence" is extremely weak and shouldn't have even been included. It doesn't even support what you were previously saying. Lol. You and I both know there were other factors at play than just, "I'd rather have a v6 jeep than a mustang".

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Brad.

I am going to pretend your failed attempt at a witty response doesn't reflect the single digit IQ I perceive you to have. Please don't reply if you have nothing of interest or relevance to add.

Aren't you the arrogant prick

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Aren't you the arrogant prick

It got me where I am today at 1/2 your age. I suggest you not take things at face value.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Brad.

It got me where I am today at 1/2 your age. I suggest you not take things at face value.

Still arrogant... if you want to be accepted into this community, like someone mentioned earlier, your stay will be brief. There are rules and if you don't abide by them, you will be treated accordingly.