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Old 11-20-2015, 08:02 AM   #169
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THAT question - what engine, came up for me in almost every conversation about my Camaro. Most of the time it went, "Do you have the V6 or the REAL motor?" Maybe I just attract pricks, but that's how it went.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:41 AM   #170
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It's all in how the question was worded . . . "V6 or the real motor" is the way somebody actively looking to put your choice down (and you along with it) asks it.

Something like "Does it have the LFX?" has a much different flavor.


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Old 11-20-2015, 07:38 PM   #171
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Wait until you get lined up with a modded LTG 4 banger at the light and he (or she) blows your doors right off after it turns green. Then, it's off to shopping the Summit/Jegs catalog to get more mod parts for your V8.
Um.... sure, the key thing in your statement above is MODDED LTG 4 banger. Why do you guys keep having to make the 4bangers look better by MODDING them in order to compare them to a V8. You can mod just about anything and get 1000hp out of it. I in no way indicated that I'm bashing them for being slow. So you're entire post is VOID. If I really want to put a few mods on my V8 it will would easily blow the doors off the 4 banger but that's not what I'm about and not why I have the V8.
It's cool that some of you guys got lots of power out of the V6. Seems like a good engine. But the reason people ask if your car has the V8 is because it's about the brawny looks and sound of power that the V8 carries . You simply cannot deny it. It's what the car is about because of it's history (Yes I know a V6 was offered in the early days). You can stuff a 800hp v6 in there and people still won't be impressed unless you're just trying to get the best track time. Then yeah, that's great, it's fast. Big deal. I don't race or track at all even though I have the V8. I love the beauty of the exterior, the sound when I drive it, the smoothness of the V8 and the power on tap if I want it. It's feels like the right combination for a Camaro and how I grew up seeing them. Anything less doesn't feel right TO ME. If it's good for you, then great. But to me all the 4 Bangers are just gonna be half a Camaro. It simply sours the pedigree and I'm glad I own the generation pre-dating the 4 bangers.

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Old 11-20-2015, 08:35 PM   #172
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Again, if you're that concerned about what other people think about your car, you have bigger problems than what engine you have.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:55 PM   #173
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Again, if you're that concerned about what other people think about your car, you have bigger problems than what engine you have.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:45 AM   #174
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But the reason people ask if your car has the V8 is because it's about the brawny looks and sound of power that the V8 carries . You simply cannot deny it. It's what the car is about because of it's history (Yes I know a V6 was offered in the early days).
The key is right there in what you posted - it's about people who can't separate actual performance from the 'back in the day' images of sixxers and V8s and their relative performances . . . when with only a rare exception or two, 6-cylinder engines really weren't capable of what you'd even consider "decent performance".

Oh yeah, in the early days, the vast majority of U.S. domestic sixxes (meaning all of the sixxes fitted to Camaros) were inline. As in IL-6 or L6. A little (more) knowledge about what you're claiming is an unsatisfactory combination for you would help your cause.

Put a red SS badge on the rear of an RS-equipped LT Camaro and keep the hood closed and you'll find that many people asked at random really won't be able to tell that it isn't an SS. Maybe most of them.


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Old 11-21-2015, 08:50 PM   #175
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Subscribed. I'm trying to decide between the V-6 and 2.0T.
Not interested in the V8, any longer.
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Old 11-22-2015, 11:14 PM   #176
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Subscribed. I'm trying to decide between the V-6 and 2.0T.
Not interested in the V8, any longer.
Same here, I would love the V8 but this is going to be my daily driver. I never owned a turbo and Ive been wondering how reliable are these engines going to be in the long run.
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Old 11-23-2015, 02:33 AM   #177
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I went v6 because it will be my daily driver and I live in a city.

I'd rarely get the opportunity to use the power of the V8 safely or legally. And being honest I'm not sure that I'm skilled enough for a 4 second car.

For me the V6 felt like the right choice.

And to the guy getting 30 mpg with a turbo 4 crossover: how the hell are you doing that? Highway mileage? I drive a VW GTI and I get 20 mpg average per tank (2L turbo). Got 34 mpg in my wife's puny 2L non-turbo'd Subaru Crosstrek going to the coast and back a couple weeks ago. Due to the problems I've had with the GTI I have no intentions to buy another turbo car ever again.
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:00 AM   #178
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The 2016 Camaro V6 is eliciting responses from Auto journalists such as "It should have an SS badge on it". (Quote from Motor Trend, I believe).

Implying that the new V6 is stupid fast. More than enough power for me.

However, the T4 has me very intrigued. As much HP as the Z28 from the 90's with a flat torque curve.

People have said they don't like the "feel" of a turbo charged car. A long time ago I took a turbo powered Audi A4 for a drive. Didn't like it at all. Maybe it was just the Audi turbo I didn't like.

I plan to make back to back test drives of the V6, then the turbo when my dealer has them to test drive. Something tells me my next vehicle will be a NA v6 sixth gen. Camaro. But who knows ? Al O. and team will engineer another winner. Remember, he thinks this new 2.0T is a "Rock Star".
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:13 AM   #179
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I went v6 because it will be my daily driver and I live in a city.

I'd rarely get the opportunity to use the power of the V8 safely or legally. And being honest I'm not sure that I'm skilled enough for a 4 second car.

For me the V6 felt like the right choice.

And to the guy getting 30 mpg with a turbo 4 crossover: how the hell are you doing that? Highway mileage? I drive a VW GTI and I get 20 mpg average per tank (2L turbo). Got 34 mpg in my wife's puny 2L non-turbo'd Subaru Crosstrek going to the coast and back a couple weeks ago. Due to the problems I've had with the GTI I have no intentions to buy another turbo car ever again.
They're not getting that. They're relying on the gauge to tell them, which is totally inaccurate. The only way to know is the old fashioned way. Write down the mileage and amount used at the pump and divide it.
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:24 AM   #180
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As much HP as the Z28 from the 90's
My TV had a 19" screen in the 90's so my 24" flat screen is da bomb.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:13 AM   #181
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The 2016 Camaro V6 is eliciting responses from Auto journalists such as "It should have an SS badge on it". (Quote from Motor Trend, I believe).

Implying that the new V6 is stupid fast. More than enough power for me.
Perhaps not "stupid fast" by today's scale, but decently quick nonetheless. Probably faster than what I'm driving.


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People have said they don't like the "feel" of a turbo charged car. A long time ago I took a turbo powered Audi A4 for a drive. Didn't like it at all. Maybe it was just the Audi turbo I didn't like.
Turbocharged engines don't respond quite the same as NA engines. Though the matter of lag has been made less significant since your A4 experience, it's still there and can be encountered under certain conditions.



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My TV had a 19" screen in the 90's so my 24" flat screen is da bomb.
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:28 PM   #182
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". . when you're trying to predict the performance of a car that you haven't driven, about all you can do is compare what you do know about it to a car whose performance is generally known".
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FYI...Al Oppenheiser made the comparison to the 90's Z28 comparing it to the performance of the Camaro 2.0T.

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