[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by rebelyell22

Well I didn't see that coming.

Watched it before I started this thread. That actually proves nothing. It shows that shop's publicity car going down the dragstrip running good times. Your results can and will vary, according to track conditions, driver skill, fine tuning your combination, and lies.

Nice try but you still don't get it.

[CapeCruisin]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Well I didn't see that coming.

Watched it before I started this thread. That actually proves nothing. It shows that shop's publicity car going down the dragstrip running good times. Your results can and will vary, according to track conditions, driver skill, fine tuning your combination, and lies.

Nice try but you still don't get it.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by King Sun

This thread should have just be named

" I personally (dis) like 4 cylinder turbo cars and this is why you should hate them too"

Oh I like them just fine, they make good power I just see no reason for them to end up in large American rear wheel drive cars.

It's a newer thing though, so maybe better versions are in the future.

In the case of Chevy they should be developing a production V8 without pushrods to keep up with the world wide competition. Everyone else is making more horsepower with smaller displacement.

[My 5th]

Ignore this too

[Synyster]

I, for one, welcome our new 4 cylinder brethren. I'm actually kind of excited to see them on the road and I bet there'll be some quick ones as soon as people start modding them. Exhaust and a tune could be interesting. Plus, no matter the cylinder count, a nice turbo spool always sounds awesome. The Ecoboost turbo sounds good, I bet the Camaro's will too.

As for me personally, V8 or bust.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Oh I like them just fine, they make good power I just see no reason for them to end up in large American rear wheel drive cars.

It's a newer thing though, so maybe better versions are in the future.

In the case of Chevy they should be developing a production V8 without pushrods to keep up with the world wide competition. Everyone else is making more horsepower with smaller displacement.

Like others have said, its to help the CAFE number.

[Moto-Mojo]

Ok, ok. So I've done some Googling. I watched the Eco-Boost vid on page 3. I always knew Formula I V6's made crazy horsepower. And I know that modern technology is great at creating big HP and torque numbers with 4 and 6 cly engines. So...why did both Ford and GM bother with beefy V8's the last 5-6 years? I don't think coming better CAFE requirements was a surprise.

Would we be seeing forums like this with sales number comparisons between Mustang, Camaro and Challenger if they were all hopped up 4's and 6's? I guess if we had no choice.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Ok, ok. So I've done some Googling. I watched the Eco-Boost vid on page 3. I always knew Formula I V6's made crazy horsepower. And I know that modern technology is great at creating big HP and torque numbers with 4 and 6 cly engines. So...why did both Ford and GM bother with beefy V8's the last 5-6 years? I don't think coming better CAFE requirements was a surprise.

Would we be seeing forums like this with sales number comparisons between Mustang, Camaro and Challenger if they were all hopped up 4's and 6's? I guess if we had no choice.

You do realize that about 70% of all 5th Gen sales were V6 models (LLT and LFX). That means 30% of V8 sales were spread across 4 different engines (L99, LS3, LSA and LS7). My guess, is yes even if there wasn't a V8 there would still be a big following on Camaro forums. That being said, there should be no worries about losing the V8 as an option anytime soon.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Is it gonna be slower or faster than the V6 model? I'd rather have the V6 for daily drive regardless. It just seems like some niche vehicle to me. Maybe they will make one with a 1LE package, it's gonna handle way better than a V8 model.

[rebelyell22]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Well I didn't see that coming.

Watched it before I started this thread. That actually proves nothing. It shows that shop's publicity car going down the dragstrip running good times. Your results can and will vary, according to track conditions, driver skill, fine tuning your combination, and lies.

Nice try but you still don't get it.

If anything they would make it slower without a tune... It would make their tune look better. It is what it is

[USAFS197]

If the V8 ever gets substituted for another engine, I'm not too sure how many people would be mad at the ATS-V engine being offered in the Camaro lineup. Yeah, you're going to have some purists that think the Camaro should only be offered with varying size/aspiration V8's but, I think that will be easier accepted as a twin turbo six than a single turbo 4.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

So...why did both Ford and GM bother with beefy V8's the last 5-6 years? I don't think coming better CAFE requirements was a surprise.

Ford is making the same power as Chevy with less displacement...they are on track but how much further can they go? We will never accept ANY power reductions so there's us, then the EPA breathing down their backs. Sounds like a rock and a hard place to be. I imagine bribes or taxing the consumer will clear it all up in the end, after all I don't think the government wants to bail out these car companies again.

It's suicide to reduce power. If Chevy were to say "Here's the all new Camaro SS with 380HP" we would just all freak out and swear we would never touch one until months later when they actually proved it was better and faster.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Is it gonna be slower or faster than the V6 model? I'd rather have the V6 for daily drive regardless. It just seems like some niche vehicle to me. Maybe they will make one with a 1LE package, it's gonna handle way better than a V8 model.

For the 6th Gen Camaro, the V6 slots between the I4 turbo and the V8. Ford made the V6 the lower option in their 6th Gen. However, if you are into modding then the I4 turbos will certainly offer more bang for the buck. GM claims a 13.5 sec. 1/4th for the new V6 and a 14.0 for the turbo. Most magazines are getting 13.7 to 13.8 for the V6 and 14.1 to 14.2 for the I4 turbo. It won't take much to knock half a second off the little 4 banger.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Oh I like them just fine, they make good power I just see no reason for them to end up in large American rear wheel drive cars.

It's a newer thing though, so maybe better versions are in the future.

In the case of Chevy they should be developing a production V8 without pushrods to keep up with the world wide competition. Everyone else is making more horsepower with smaller displacement.

And yet that antiquated pushrod V8 is still kicking the asses of much more "modern" engines.