Has the weight been announced officaillay? - Page 2

KMPrenger · 08-26-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by V6CamaroRS

Technically Al's been saying that the base model is almost 300 pounds less. We do need to be specific on that or there might be a bit of rioting.

That being said, all other models are supposed to be "at least" 200lbs.

THIS....It was never stated that it was 300 pounds less. I think it was "nearly"...so I'm going to say 275+.

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

If the SS doesn't weigh at or under 3750,lots of people will be upset including me.

Same here. Even if Chevy mislead us a bit, and is comparing a 2015 2SS to a 2016 base 1SS, the car should STILL be under 3,750 pounds. Unless they went with some ridiculous comparison, and compared a loaded out 2SS that weighs over 4,000 pounds to a 1SS....but I just can't imagine they'd pull something that dumb.

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

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Funny thing. Even if the car comes in at 3800 lbs that's what the gt pp weighs. And it won't stop the camaro ss from besting the mustang gt in every performance metric. ...

I think the GTPP is more like 3,780 pounds....(which isn't much I know) hey...if we critical of them, gotta be critical of what we say too right?

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Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

They may have used lighter parts and needed to to offset the fact that the 1ss comes damn near loaded stock!!! ...

1SS comes with lots of goodies in my opinion, but its nowhere near loaded.

Mr Twisty · 08-26-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by classicrockr

We HOPE they're 300 less & 200 less. Otherwise the mustang crew will have a party

Even if the numbers are correct, they still won't believe it... "Wait till the built cars are scaled, blabla etc."

KMPrenger · 08-26-2015, 04:02 PM

It may have been announced "officaillay" but not officially yet.

lol...sorry had to.

KMPrenger · 08-26-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

Even if the numbers are correct, they still won't believe it... "Wait till the built cars are scaled, blabla etc."

Very true my friend, very true.

Blackdevil77 · 08-26-2015, 04:10 PM

Is there really a chance it weighs 3,750 lbs or less? I know they said it would be lighter, but if the weight comes in at that or less, I'd be very happy. Everything weighs a ridiculous amount now.

Looking forward to learning more about this car.

SuperSound · 08-26-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Is there really a chance it weighs 3,750 lbs or less? I know they said it would be lighter, but if the weight comes in at that or less, I'd be very happy. Everything weighs a ridiculous amount now.

Looking forward to learning more about this car.

If not be sure to send Al O. a nasty message, but more likely you will be sending him a big thank you for pulling it off

FYI take a look at some of press releases/videos with his comments about weight. He goes out of his way to be very direct about the weight, not dance around it with word choice.

SpeedIsLife · 08-26-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

If not be sure to send Al O. a nasty message, but more likely you will be sending him a big thank you for pulling it off

FYI take a look at some of press releases/videos with his comments about weight. He goes out of his way to be very direct about the weight, not dance around it with word choice.

He also said we would be pleasantly surprised about the prices

ilirg · 08-26-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

He also said we would be pleasantly surprised about the prices

He also said specifically that the car would be 200 lbs lighter for SS and almost 300 for v6. The price is subjective, some people are happy with the price for what they are getting some are not. Can't really base those comments off one another.

SuperSound · 08-26-2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ilirg

He also said specifically that the car would be 200 lbs lighter for SS and almost 300 for v6. The price is subjective, some people are happy with the price for what they are getting some are not. Can't really base those comments off one another.

Exactly. Go take a look at a Scat Pack Challenger or GTPP Premium loaded similarly to a 2SS. The 2SS is right in the mix. Now if you compare it to an SRT 392 it is cheaper.

The only price is subjective b/c they view it as us getting more for less, while other view it as paying more for things they never wanted. And a lot of people fail to look at the 5th gen MSRPs with comparable options. The prices are very close, but no one has been (or should have been) paying MSRP for the 5th gen for awhile.

Bhobbs · 08-26-2015, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

Exactly. Go take a look at a Scat Pack Challenger or GTPP Premium loaded similarly to a 2SS. The 2SS is right in the mix. Now if you compare it to an SRT 392 it is cheaper.

The only price is subjective b/c they view it as us getting more for less, while other view it as paying more for things they never wanted. And a lot of people fail to look at the 5th gen MSRPs with comparable options. The prices are very close, but no one has been (or should have been) paying MSRP for the 5th gen for awhile.

The difference is the 2SS doesn't come with any performance upgrades. The Scat Pack gets the 6.4 and the GT gets the PP, for about the same price.

13vertss · 08-26-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The difference is the 2SS doesn't come with any performance upgrades. The Scat Pack gets the 6.4 and the GT gets the PP, for about the same price.

How do you come to that conclusion? Look at all the coolers it comes stock with. Stock has the 3:73 gears, the tires are staggered performance, Brembo brakes on all 4 corners.

EE7 · 08-26-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The difference is the 2SS doesn't come with any performance upgrades. The Scat Pack gets the 6.4 and the GT gets the PP, for about the same price.

With its not upgraded performance it will still beat both of those cars in every comparison. Although down the strip it might be close with the dodge camp.

SuperSound · 08-26-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The difference is the 2SS doesn't come with any performance upgrades. The Scat Pack gets the 6.4 and the GT gets the PP, for about the same price.

Well once we know the specs, the others upgrades may end up falling short of what is standard on 1SS and 2SS. Then then value will be even greater. It's guessing right now I know, which why I can't say the price is bad or good until we know how it does. But from a features standpoint the 2SS is still a good value, apples to apples.

The PP on the GT will really be bad since it couldn't help it beat a 5th gen 1LE, and if the 1SS 6th gen handles better than the 1LE 5th gen, then even more value is in the 6th gen's court. The only thing the Mustang will have to claim is it is simply cheaper, but Dodge can say that too about the R/T. And both will offer less than a 6th gen 1SS.

wait for performance numbers, then we can revisit the whole "price" issue.

Bhobbs · 08-26-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

How do you come to that conclusion? Look at all the coolers it comes stock with. Stock has the 3:73 gears, the tires are staggered performance, Brembo brakes on all 4 corners.

Because the Scat Pack is an upgrade over the base V8 and the PP is an upgrade over the GT Premium.

How does the SS coming with coolers, 3.73 and run flats change the fact that none of those are upgrades over the base V8?

08-26-2015, 04:02 PM	#17
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Blackdevil77 Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, Shelby GT500 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,376	Is there really a chance it weighs 3,750 lbs or less? I know they said it would be lighter, but if the weight comes in at that or less, I'd be very happy. Everything weighs a ridiculous amount now. Looking forward to learning more about this car.

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