[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by Thor142

If it makes it perform better then why would any sports car enthusiast be against it? If you want an outdated pony car there are plenty of older ones around. I guess it's a lot easier for me since I'm not a "fan" of any particular brand and I just want the best I can get for my money.

A muscle car isn't just about performance. It's also about aesthetics, sound and "personality." A Camaro that can't do a burnout...seriously?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

For those who do not get the GM Authority daily newsletter, this was one of the articles today. http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/05/...7311-312434101

That's right. GM is asking for opinions from Camaro fans, whether or not to introduce an ALL WHEEL DRIVE version of the Gen6 Camaro. In my opinion, this is sacrilege! I voted and posted a comment against it, suggesting that GM get rid of the non-selling "SS" sedan and reintroduce the Chevelle as their grocery-getter with various engines and, yes... even an AWD version. Or, make the whole line AWD.

I'm all for GM keeping up with technology, but I'm even more geared toward maintaining certain traditions - specifically, that the Camaro remain a two-door, RWD, sports/pony/muscle car. The next thing you know they'll be wanting to make it a four-door.

If you are a traditional Camaro enthusiast, please read the brief article and vote against the idea of an AWD Camaro. Thank you.

You do understand that GM Authority isn't a part of General Motors anymore than Camaro6 is, right? They're just another website





Anyway, I can probably guarantee that there won't be a high performance AWD Camaro ever. If GM wants to, they can offer something else to fill that niche, but its not going to be a Camaro. Now, as for a 'low performance' AWD for dealing with snow/ice ... for 99% of buyers you're better off to just buy snow tires & you'll be paying less money for more benefit. But no matter how often that gets said, people still equate awd with OMGWTFBBQ-levels of awesomeness for winter driving.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Where does the thread say GM is asking for opinions? They don't mention anything like that. It looks like just another fun poll thread to me. I went ahead and voted no though, unlike the dummies that couldn't make up their minds.

Yeah. Why would GM be polling the interwebs with this? This would be handled in the same way as everything else with the 6th Gen, discussions with owners.

Is the weight penalty for a transfer case and differential that is strong enough to handle the 455lb-ft worth it for a couple of tenths in 0-60 and not much else?

[thebiglubinsky]

Hell yes! This is the only way to put the power to the ground effectively. All the successful car companies are integrating this into their high powered options. AMG, next gen M cars, Audi... How about a ZL-1 GT-R killer!!!

[ardailsmith]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

I'm all for GM keeping up with technology, but I'm even more geared toward maintaining certain traditions - specifically, that the Camaro remain a two-door, RWD, sports/pony/muscle car. The next thing you know they'll be wanting to make it a four-door.

If you are a traditional Camaro enthusiast, please read the brief article and vote against the idea of an AWD Camaro. Thank you.

I'm not sure what traditions you're trying to protect are you saying we should go back to 3 speed autos, 4 barrel carbs maybe drop the electronic ignition and go back to points. Or are you talking about going back to steering by wire, no ABS, drop the heated seats and steering wheel. No digital climate control. A lever and a guess on how hot or cold it was in the car, that's all my generation needed.

Look I'm not trying to be a jerk but the The 1st Gen and the 6th Gen are so far apart from each other that if they were aircraft. The 1st Gen would be a WWII F6F-5 Hellcat and the 6th Gen would be a F-22 Raptor. The only similarities that those two planes share is the ability to fly. (and rain death from above)

I would not worry about the Camaro going 4 door, because people will do that on their own. Just search for image of the stretch limo 5th gen.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by thebiglubinsky

Hell yes! This is the only way to put the power to the ground effectively. All the successful car companies are integrating this into their high powered options. AMG, next gen M cars, Audi... How about a ZL-1 GT-R killer!!!

That's why all race cars use AWD....wait...nm.

[ardailsmith]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

A muscle car isn't just about performance. It's also about aesthetics, sound and "personality." A Camaro that can't do a burnout...seriously?

Why would a AWD Camaro not be able to do a burnout? Try searching youtube for "GTR Burnouts".

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

This is the kicker folks.

I would have a hard time believing that adding AWD to the car wouldn't end up affecting even the 2wd versions in some way, be it added weight, or added cost overall. Maybe I'm wrong, and if so, then I don't have a real problem with it.

Well, besides the fact that I just think a Camaro should only be RWD, the above observations also concern me a lot. I don't even want to see an AWD option available on the Camaro because there is no doubt it will drive up production costs over the entire Camaro line.

[2013 ZL1 #7860]

I think that is an excellent idea.

An AWD ZL1 with 580 (or more hp) would rape the Hellcat at the strip!

Guys, the GTR could be dethroned by a Camaro with an American V8 and 1/2 the price tag!

I think this would be about the only thing that would get me to trade my ZL1 for a Gen 6...

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by xgnxs

This is how you kill a car. First, you add a 4 cylinder engine option. People say great, but why isn't there an AWD version? I want to drive it year round. Then they add an AWD option. Then people say great, but why doesn't it have 4 doors? I want extra room for my family. Then they add 4 doors. And now we have a car that isn't a camaro. Look at how all the 2 door SUVs died. K5, S10. 2 doors, then they offered them with 4 doors, and now what was the S10 blazer is the Equinox. For sure, I'm using the "slippery slope" logical fallacy, so discredit me if you want, but I'd hate to see the death of the camaro as we know it, a RWD coupe.

Edit:

If they're going to add AWD to anything, it should be the Cruze / Malibu / Impala.

Exactly!

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I wouldn't get an AWD Camaro so I don't want the weight penalty of having an AWD capable chassis.

Right... 'cause you know that's what they'd do.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Right... 'cause you know that's what they'd do.

You think adding AWD capability to the 6th gen wouldn't cause an increase in weight?

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Where does the thread say GM is asking for opinions? They don't mention anything like that. It looks like just another fun poll thread to me. I went ahead and voted no though, unlike the dummies that couldn't make up their minds.

Well GM Authority Newsletter "polls" their readers frequently based on their article topics. And, if you scroll down the page further, you can comment as well. Typically, I consider that offering an opportunity to state an opinion.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

You do understand that GM Authority isn't a part of General Motors anymore than Camaro6 is, right?

Actually, no I didn't so thanks for letting me know. Doesn't matter to me though as I'm pretty sure such polls and comments have "the ear" of GM marketing gurus.