[G-Oil Guy]

Originally Posted by TurboTA

He stood by while Sandusky ran a childrens program at HIS UNIVERSITY knowing full well what happened.

Wrong. When Joe was shown to have known and reported it up the chain, The University banned Sandusky from conducting events on PSU property or from ever bringing kids to campus from Second Mile.

I'm sorry, when did Joe Paterno become the owner of Penn State University, I must have missed that one. I thought the President and Board of Trustees and the State Government were in charge/ownership of a PUBLIC university.

Care to try again?

[TurboTA]

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

Please show where it was stated that Joe knew for a decade. In my reading of the facts it can only be proven that Joe knew in 2002. Everything prior to that was handled by Pennsylvania State Authorities (not university personnel).

And in 2002 Sandusky was no longer Joe's employee. His access to the university was a matter for the administration.

The DA knew and Local Police knew well long before Joe ever knew,

2002 to 2011. Almost a decade, correct? No longer Joe's employee? Listen to the former players. Sandusky had an office, parking space, ran the childrens program using football facilities and was at practice and other football functions continuously.

[Moose]

This is a "hot topic" for sure, and thank you all for keeping it respectful so far.

Its just a sad situation, and regardless of where you live, etc., anyone can see the blame belongs with many and the focus should be on the victims, not football, and/or Paterno.

Please continue to discuss this respectfully. And remember a couple of things: there will always be people with different opinions than yours, so respect them. And, no football program and no coach, is more important than the real issue at hand and the victims.

Carry on...

[AZCamaroFan]

have to agree with turbota. if it was you , wouldn't you be saying "what the hell happend with that matter i brought to you , about sandusky in the shower with the kid?"

[TurboTA]

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

Wrong. When Joe was shown to have known and reported it up the chain, The University banned Sandusky from conducting events on PSU property or from ever bringing kids to campus from Second Mile.

I'm sorry, when did Joe Paterno become the owner of Penn State University, I must have missed that one. I thought the President and Board of Trustees and the State Government were in charge/ownership of a PUBLIC university.

Care to try again?

Open your eyes. How much luck did the board have when they tried to fire him in 2004? Pay attention to the first hand info that is coming out of "HAPPY VALLEY" Recent former players are saying Sandusky was ALWAYS there and still with children and Joe Pa turned his head.

You care to try again? WAKE UP

[G-Oil Guy]

Originally Posted by TurboTA

2002 to 2011. Almost a decade, correct? No longer Joe's employee? Listen to the former players. Sandusky had an office, parking space, ran the childrens program using football facilities and was at practice and other football functions continuously.

I haven't seen anything from the former players stating that. All of my facts have come from the Grand Jury findings and the time line I posted earlier in the thread.

In that information it was stated that Sandusky was banned from the football facilities and from bringing children from Second Mile. Please cite your sources.

[ssump29]

WOW turbo learn to read In the grand jusry report this was happening long before it was reported to Joe in 2002. In 98 the mother, police and public wellfare did nothing when Sandusky admitted to being wrong in touching and all. Also read about how the high school wrestling coach caught sandusky in his weight room late one night.

Too all of you who think Joe Pa or anyone else knew what Sandusky was doing, Sandusky was going to the shower room and weight room in late hours when he knew no one was around, he also used his basement bedroom more cases then not to start everything off.

And Sandusky was not employeed by PSU since 1999 but had access and was NOT repeat was NOT an employee to the school or even working with Joe PA. And only one situation occured from 2002 to 2009 after the GA reported what he saw all other acts was prior to 2002 and Joe's knowledge.

[TurboTA]

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

I haven't seen anything from the former players stating that. All of my facts have come from the Grand Jury findings and the time line I posted earlier in the thread.

In that information it was stated that Sandusky was banned from the football facilities and from bringing children from Second Mile. Please cite your sources.

Paul Pozluzny. Jack Ham even said he saw Sandusky at the facilities several times recently.

[G-Oil Guy]

Originally Posted by ssump29

WOW turbo learn to read In the grand jusry report this was happening long before it was reported to Joe in 2002. In 98 the mother, police and public wellfare did nothing when Sandusky admitted to being wrong in touching and all. Also read about how the high school wrestling coach caught sandusky in his weight room late one night.

Too all of you who think Joe Pa or anyone else knew what Sandusky was doing, Sandusky was going to the shower room and weight room in late hours when he knew no one was around, he also used his basement bedroom more cases then not to start everything off.

And Sandusky was not employeed by PSU since 1999 but had access and was NOT repeat was NOT an employee to the school or even working with Joe PA. And only one situation occured from 2002 to 2009 after the GA reported what he saw all other acts was prior to 2002 and Joe's knowledge.

Thank you, someone else who knows how to understand logic and reasoning.

[ssump29]

Turbo just ingoring the GRAND JURY findings which is what brought all this to light. Yet he says word of mouth around campus is better then a grand jury report with all the correct information. Wow where did this guy come from.

[G-Oil Guy]

Originally Posted by ssump29

Turbo just ingoring the GRAND JURY findings which is what brought all this to light. Yet he says word of mouth around campus is better then a grand jury report with all the correct information. Wow where did this guy come from.

He's also from Ohio. He's probably trolling.

[Moose]

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

I haven't seen anything from the former players stating that. All of my facts have come from the Grand Jury findings and the time line I posted earlier in the thread.

In that information it was stated that Sandusky was banned from the football facilities and from bringing children from Second Mile. Please cite your sources.

FWIW, ESPN just had former PSU player and current NFL player Paul Pluskowski on Mike and Mike who commented that Sandusky "was everywhere" when he was a player/student at PSU.

[TurboTA]

Originally Posted by ssump29

WOW turbo learn to read In the grand jusry report this was happening long before it was reported to Joe in 2002. In 98 the mother, police and public wellfare did nothing when Sandusky admitted to being wrong in touching and all. Also read about how the high school wrestling coach caught sandusky in his weight room late one night.

Too all of you who think Joe Pa or anyone else knew what Sandusky was doing, Sandusky was going to the shower room and weight room in late hours when he knew no one was around, he also used his basement bedroom more cases then not to start everything off.

And Sandusky was not employeed by PSU since 1999 but had access and was NOT repeat was NOT an employee to the school or even working with Joe PA. And only one situation occured from 2002 to 2009 after the GA reported what he saw all other acts was prior to 2002 and Joe's knowledge.

I was responding to the decade comment FYI. Joe knew because he was told, point blank. Wake up

[TurboTA]

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

He's also from Ohio. He's probably trolling.

Weak.