[Sax1031]

Price alone does not make vehicles comparable.

Comparing a Mustang to a Vette is about as apples to oranges comparison as you will find.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

The SNOB in me would never compare the Mustang to the Vette. But unfortunately for Mustang fans Ford decided that they would via PRICE. The GT500 comes in $2K under a Vette.

Let me know when you can call your vette a 2+2 coupe or take 4 people anyhwere in it. The mustang is a MUCH roomier, larger car than the corvette. Should we compare the mustang gt to the base cts just because they have similar prices?

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Price alone does not make vehicles comparable.

Comparing a Mustang to a Vette is about as apples to oranges comparison as you will find.

I agree. But there are many magazines... and Ford who will try a do it.

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

I agree. But there are many magazines... and Ford who will try a do it.

I'm not saying your wrong but I can say I have never heard of Ford doing this.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

I agree. But there are many magazines... and Ford who will try a do it.

It sounds more to me that Chevy will try and do it before they can make this mythical Z28.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Let me know when you can call your vette a 2+2 coupe or take 4 people anyhwere in it. The mustang is a MUCH roomier, larger car than the corvette. Should we compare the mustang gt to the base cts just because they have similar prices?

If U want... WTF would I care.

Personally I could careless about 2+2 seating in anything I bought as a Toy. My CTS-V has had my kids in twice in the year I've owned it.

As I said.. I didn't compare the Vette to the GT500... the Magazines and Ford did.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by meanmike

I'm not saying your wrong but I can say I have never heard of Ford doing this.

It's tru.. and hey... after the demise of the Ford GT... what else could they compare?

Ford has two vehicles in North America that actually seem fun to drive. The Mustang GT/GT500 and the Raptor. That's it for the past 4 years.


GM has or has had the Camaro SS, Corvette/GS/Z06/ZR1, CTS/CTS-V/Sedan/Coupe/Wagon, SRXTurbo, CobaltSS, HHRSS, STS/STSV, G8GT/GXP, Solstice/Solstice GXP, Sky/Sky RL...

I often wonder which company is REALLY supposedly being run by the Government.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

It sounds more to me that Chevy will try and do it before they can make this mythical Z28.

Why is it "mythical???" The Camaro was new for 2010. I think U Ford Fan Lil Boys are gonna be in for a helluva surprise now that Chevy knows what's on the Mustang Agenda for 2011

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

It's tru.. and hey... after the demise of the Ford GT... what else could they compare?

Ford has two vehicles in North America that actually seem fun to drive. The Mustang GT/GT500 and the Raptor. That's it for the past 4 years.


GM has or has had the Camaro SS, Corvette/GS/Z06/ZR1, CTS/CTS-V/Sedan/Coupe/Wagon, SRXTurbo, CobaltSS, HHRSS, STS/STSV, G8GT/GXP, Solstice/Solstice GXP, Sky/Sky RL...

I often wonder which company is REALLY supposedly being run by the Government.

And look at where having all those different cars got them. Dont get me wrong I think its great that they had such a huge variety but it didn't make them money. I mean even the Vettes sales are bad right now.

[meanmike]

Hey Cmicasa the Great XvX I am thinking about buying a 08-09 Vette vert what's a good TT setup for them without going through somebody like lingenfelter

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Why is it "mythical???" The Camaro was new for 2010. I think U Ford Fan Lil Boys are gonna be in for a helluva surprise now that Chevy knows what's on the Mustang Agenda for 2011

I hope that Chevy realizes in the building on the Z/28 that Ford has at least 110hp more they can add to the GT500 at any time.

And it is mythical because we have no credible information about the car.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Price alone does not make vehicles comparable.

Comparing a Mustang to a Vette is about as apples to oranges comparison as you will find.

Most GT500 cross-shopping is vs. the SRT8, 2ss, M3 Coupe, etc..... besides, I didn't have enough gold chains or spray on tanning lotion to qualify for the vette........

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by meanmike

And look at where having all those different cars got them. Dont get me wrong I think its great that they had such a huge variety but it didn't make them money. I mean even the Vettes sales are bad right now.

Having all those cars HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH the BK... the 100 Years of Legacy costs did. Ford currently has almost as much Debt as GM had when it filed in 2009. The $2 Billion it profited Q1 would do little to offset it. THEN there is still the UAW in the less favorable contract for Ford than it is for GM/Chrysler. (another thing that makes me question the Obama/UAW conspiracy theories, as the UAW really kinda got stuck in the GM/Chrysler negotiations)


ALSO... Vette sales are down because it is in a PREMIUM market now:

As of MARCH 2010... if U really look at the SEGMENT... here are Porsche sales of the 911 and Cayman Boxster


Current Year Prior Year Current Year Prior Year


ALL BOXSTER/CAYMAN

184 517 343 783

ALL 911
339 557 842 1,002

Total
543 1074 1185 1785


Then here are the Corvette:

Corvette
624 1,027 1,478 1,869


Keep in mind I used PORSCHE BOXSTER and CAYMAN sales combined with 911... where that effectively gives a Porsche vehicles that start at $46K-$130K and Vette vehicles that start at $49K - $117K making them not only competitors, but also same segment across the board... meaning the ACTUAL BUYING demographic that can even afford these..

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

The Mustang revived it with the 2005 design that started the retro craze which is why the Camaro went retro as well.

I always thought that the 2000 PT Cruiser started the retro craze.
and... The 2000 T-Bird assisted the start of the retro craze.
and... The 2003 Chevy SSR continued the retro craze.
and... The 2005 Chevy SSR perpetuated the retro craze.
and... The 2005 Mustang continued the retro craze.
and... The 2010 Camaro perfected the retro craze.

Next thing you'll say is the mustang was the first small sporty car with a V8 to come out.