[wbt]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

3.45 gears for a car that peaks at 5900rpm (LS3) is still more aggressive than 3.73's on a car that peaks at 6500rpm (5.0). To match the LS3's gearing advantage theeoretically the 5.0 would need something like 3.80 gears.

The Mustang has more agressive gearing in the trans.....next.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

you only hear that from fanboys though so no need to parrott that false info. The 440hp SMS mustang proves that a couple boltons like pullies and catback add 30hp. The 5.0 MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have the same overall potential (N/A) as the 6.2 LS3 but its by no means "maxxed out" from the factory.

You don't know that.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by wbt

The Mustang has more agressive gearing in the trans.....next.

good catch,that it does, and requires an EXTRA SHIFT in the quarter which would actually be A HINDERANCE if you arent a very good driver.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by wbt

You don't know that.

i know that they are already claiming 440hp. They have a little more credibility than people just parrotting information and trying to pass it off as truth on message boards.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

and i already stated, the very worst publicly recorded time for the 5.0 STILL cracks the top 17 for fastest 2010 Camaros with the 426hp 6 speed LS3!!!

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

3.45 gears for a car that peaks at 5900rpm (LS3) is still more aggressive than 3.73's on a car that peaks at 6500rpm (5.0). To match the LS3's gearing advantage theeoretically the 5.0 would need something like 3.80 gears.

Thank you I have been waiting for someone to point this out. I stick to long first and second gears in my drag car. I post alot better times not having to shift as much.

[Georgie]

perfect, 3.45s all the way then

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

What makes the Camaro an overall "premium" car vs a Mustang... Its the same class of cars theres nothing premium about it. The rearend setup is more modern, thats about it. Both carry similar grade engine technology, and heck you can get the Mustang with a touch screen and voice recognition technology that the Camaro doesn't have. You talk like the Mustang still has a Carbureator and bias ply tires.

No... the Zeta Platform is essentially the SIGMA platform and a damn premium one at that. It regularly competes with supposed higher end cars from BMW, BENZ, in Australia and even in China/Asia under the Holden or Buick name.

Chevy has already announced the 2011 Camaro, no change other than the HUD, V6 HP and Synergy green SS availability. From what you hear is hearsay, there are no concrete facts to back this up.

Gotta say.. alls I have seen are THOSE changes to the V6.. I haven't seen any for the SS. If U have links... please provide... I'd like to read them...

I expect people to be a bit rational in their comparison and pay attention to the FACTS instead of sticking on technicalities. I expect people to act like adults and avoid the "its better because.... it just is" arguement.

I dunno... I'd expect a person actually BOUGHT a 2010 Camaro to actually do more than try and bolster up an ugly ass Mustang..

U must HATE that effin Chevy... Sell it to me.. I need a replacement for my G6, but can't justify to my accountant buying a new car with the G6 still in perfect working and "physical" condition... That and the fact that I just bought the Vseries last year, and the Vette a year before that.. and the Tahoe.. before that.

nothing but good things to say about all of them.. and I don;t get stuck on STOCK numbers because I'm always gonna MOD what I get from any maker.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Also.. I don't kno if anyone else saw this.. but once again they are comparing a 2010 SS to the Brand new GT.. and Chevy could surprise us again....

what do you expect them to compare it to? chevy wont come out with the 2011 models till the second half of this year.

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

No... the Zeta Platform is essentially the SIGMA platform and a damn premium one at that. It regularly competes with supposed higher end cars from BMW, BENZ, in Australia and even in China/Asia under the Holden or Buick name.

Just because its based on a similar platform as a car that competes with "premium" cars does not make it a premium car vs a car thats built essentially on its own platform. A lot of companies do this, doesn't make the Ford Contour a "premium" car because it was bade on the same platform as the Jag X-Type. Its a great car, but its NOT a BMW or a Benz or a Holden Commodore and neither is a Mustang. GM doesn't sell it that way nor do they intend it that way. Come on man are you serious when you say this stuff?

Gotta say.. alls I have seen are THOSE changes to the V6.. I haven't seen any for the SS. If U have links... please provide... I'd like to read them...

Read the friggin homepage of this site, GM made a press release, HUD on the 2SS and 2LT and Synergy green available on the SS. Thats it. Come on again, do you have some sort of strange world going on in your head?

I dunno... I'd expect a person actually BOUGHT a 2010 Camaro to actually do more than try and bolster up an ugly ass Mustang..

U must HATE that effin Chevy... Sell it to me.. I need a replacement for my G6, but can't justify to my accountant buying a new car with the G6 still in perfect working and "physical" condition... That and the fact that I just bought the Vseries last year, and the Vette a year before that.. and the Tahoe.. before that.

nothing but good things to say about all of them.. and I don;t get stuck on STOCK numbers because I'm always gonna MOD what I get from any maker.

I'm not bolster it I am being realistic and respecting the competition. I already said I think the Camaro is better in many ways earlier in this post but you conveniently ignore that and stick with "its better... because it just is".

Who cares about modding cars this discussion is about STOCK numbers. Oh and I appreciate you tooting your own horn about your car collection because that makes your opinion if it being better because it just is even MORE valid. For someone with the money to by so many cars you sure don't seem grown up enough to own them.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

Just because its based on a similar platform as a car that competes with "premium" cars does not make it a premium car vs a car thats built essentially on its own platform. A lot of companies do this, doesn't make the Ford Contour a "premium" car because it was bade on the same platform as the Jag X-Type. Its a great car, but its NOT a BMW or a Benz or a Holden Commodore and neither is a Mustang. GM doesn't sell it that way nor do they intend it that way. Come on man are you serious when you say this stuff?



Read the friggin homepage of this site, GM made a press release, HUD on the 2SS and 2LT and Synergy green available on the SS. Thats it. Come on again, do you have some sort of strange world going on in your head?



I'm not bolster it I am being realistic and respecting the competition. I already said I think the Camaro is better in many ways earlier in this post but you conveniently ignore that and stick with "its better... because it just is".

Who cares about modding cars this discussion is about STOCK numbers. Oh and I appreciate you tooting your own horn about your car collection because that makes your opinion if it being better because it just is even MORE valid. For someone with the money to by so many cars you sure don't seem grown up enough to own them.

+1 good post.

[Angrybird 12]

Can Anyone Say "Forum Wars"?

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Can Anyone Say "Forum Wars"?

Hey I know a Challenger got his butt spanked by an SS on Forum Wars, bring on the Mustang and we will give him some too.

[DeathChill]

So this Mustang had 3.73 gears? Might want edit your post, Unfair. I know how you hate misinformation being spread.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by meanmike

I like how this part was convenietly left out and ignored.

just to throw in some additional ambiguity, we also tested another Mustang GT (this one in blue and wearing summer tires), which ripped to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds and blitzed the 1,320 feet in 13 seconds at 110.6 mph. That's the kind of razor's edge that can be measured in microns.

This was done on the initial Mustang testing day, a different day, which the Camaro also matched on its own initial testing.