[cdb95z28]

Originally Posted by Tony @ Mamo Motorsports

You should have taken it for a proper drive before winter storage!!

Sounds like it was doing everything it was supposed to so Im glad you at least got a good taste for the upgrade before parking it!

Regards,
Tony

Haha! I sure wanted too. WInter in the Laurel Mnts of PA sucks!
Thank You!

[Corky]

OK guys...I just ordered mine and it will be the first mod on my engine as well...
Tony I'm looking forward to trying out your TB.. That annoying dead spot/lag has always been a sticking point for me even with only 12,000 miles on the clock...I'm ready for the upgrade !!

[Tony @ Mamo Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Corky

OK guys...I just ordered mine and it will be the first mod on my engine as well...
Tony I'm looking forward to trying out your TB.. That annoying dead spot/lag has always been a sticking point for me even with only 12,000 miles on the clock...I'm ready for the upgrade !!

Your going to love it

Putting up with it that long is a crime....you will see!!

The good news is a guy like you will really appreciate the upgrade

Unlike most upgrades that pay their largest dividends at WOT (3 % of most people's driving), this mods gives you most of its perks in the lower and midrange part throttle positions (97% of your driving) which means you appreciate the upgrade constantly!

By the way if any of you are even reading this it's a damn miracle as this thread was moved to a section that took me 30 seconds to even find.

Trying to get it moved back to where it belongs!

-Tony

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Tony @ Mamo Motorsports

Your going to love it

Putting up with it that long is a crime....you will see!!

The good news is a guy like you will really appreciate the upgrade

Unlike most upgrades that pay their largest dividends at WOT (3 % of most people's driving), this mods gives you most of its perks in the lower and midrange part throttle positions (97% of your driving) which means you appreciate the upgrade constantly!

By the way if any of you are even reading this it's a damn miracle as this thread was moved to a section that took me 30 seconds to even find.

Trying to get it moved back to where it belongs!

-Tony

Sponsor threads go in the sponsor section so I believe it’s where it should be.

[ALMN]

Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Ok, had a chance to take it for a short ride today, now admittedly, I don't drive my car a lot, honestly, hardly at all (2,000 miles per year), so small changes are likely to go unnoticed by me (however, I did take it out yesterday with the stock Throttle Body to hopefully try to get some kind of "baseline"), but today the throttle response did seem better and quite a bit more "linear"... And everyone's favorite "Butt Dyno" did seem to feel a bit more spritely... I guess you could say the car "felt" lighter and I did notice some slight tire slippage at 40+ Mph that I don't really feel like I noticed before (I'm running summer only, 305/30's out back and when I put them on I thought "Damn these things 'HOOK'", now I'm getting some "slippage", it made me smile!)...

The one thing that was definitely there (new), at certain heavier throttle settings was a bit of intake whine/whistle, almost a little bit like very mild supercharger whine... I had the windows open and noticed it, definitely not annoying in any way, but did catch my attention (took a few accelerations to be sure it was my car and not something else)... I wonder if that abrupt ridge on the OEM intake was to create enough turbulence to quiet the airflow and get rid of the whistle/whine?? Just spitballing there, but it is a difference... But either way, I liked the "howl" of the intake air, sounded good to me! Smiled again!

Overall, very pleased with the improved throttle response, driveability, added "Butt Dyno power"... I didn't do any timed 0-60 pulls before and after, but it wouldn't surprise me if this knocked 0.1 seconds off the 0-60 time... I do have the GM Performance Cold Air Intake installed as well, which may have increased the sound of any intake air sounds... (plus I have my snow deflector removed as well, freeing up the airflow)...

With the absolutely great customer support from Tony, the nice improvements in throttle response and "Butt Dyno Power" and the absolute lack of any CEL or codes being thrown, I would certainly consider this TB over any with a big notch that allows unregulated air at idle, I just can't figure out how all that extra air is dealt with without the car idling at 1,500+ RPM, except pull timing way back to calm things down, heating things up... I'm no engine tuning expert... But my brain can't wrap around a lot of excess, unregulated airflow being a good thing at idle, but I don't know...

If you are looking for a ported Throttle Body to get more & smoother airflow, that operates completely "Stock" at idle but lets a lot more airflow through wide open, I would definitely consider Tony Mamo's V3 Ported TB, the best thing is, it is an OEM part, so warranty? No Problem, ECM? No Problem, Codes? No Problem... It just works...

And the "Dead Spot" in acceleration was gone... Which to me, was always a bit annoying... I always felt there was a bit of a "bog" if you hit it too hard from the dig... This thing just wanted to GO! (Smile #3!) Hey "Mr. BRZ with the big coffee can muffler" did you enjoy the taillights in the distance???

First "Mod" I have done in about 2 years, was fun to get out there and wrench on the car a bit (admittedly, a SUPER easy "Mod", only took 15 minutes, but was still fun)...

That's what I bought this car for... It was good to be reminded of it...

I don't endorse many people, honestly, practically none at all, but Tony is legit (spent well over a hour on the phone with him during multiple calls), he stands by and is very passionate about his product, and I like that... Far better than places that sell you something and then you can never get a hold of them again... That isn't the case here...

I might be pairing this throttle body with an intake or stock box with green drop in filter. You mentioned about the whistle, can you hear it with windows up inside the car? I do listen to my engine alot making sure its making the right noises, no leaks and lifter failures. A whistle like that would be annoying however the stock GM intake doesn’t seem to have the notch section either so not sure what the other competition is up to!

[2SS Capt]

Originally Posted by ALMN

I might be pairing this throttle body with an intake or stock box with green drop in filter. You mentioned about the whistle, can you hear it with windows up inside the car? I do listen to my engine alot making sure its making the right noises, no leaks and lifter failures. A whistle like that would be annoying however the stock GM intake doesn’t seem to have the notch section either so not sure what the other competition is up to!

I could only very slightly hear it with the windows down... I wasn't even sure it was my car at first... I do have the GM Performance CAI and I removed the snow deflector as well, so it is more open to allow sound to come out than stock... I wouldn't be concerned about the slight whistle as it is so slight and only at certain throttle settings...

[Tony @ Mamo Motorsports]

Originally Posted by ALMN

I might be pairing this throttle body with an intake or stock box with green drop in filter. You mentioned about the whistle, can you hear it with windows up inside the car? I do listen to my engine alot making sure its making the right noises, no leaks and lifter failures. A whistle like that would be annoying however the stock GM intake doesn’t seem to have the notch section either so not sure what the other competition is up to!

You wont get a whistle from this TB install....in fact on the bench it's quieter than stock do to all the sharp OEM edges completely eliminated.

Once you experience this you won't even consider running the OEM unit any more

Bottom line....you have 30 days to decide if you love it or not

Install it and drive it a bit.....like I said if you do you won't want to go back to the OEM unit I assure you.

Best sub $1000 mod out there for any LT1, LT4/ LT6 powered vehicles

Regards,
Tony

[vaeron]

Gonna have to wait till closer to taking the car out in the spring time... I'll want to drive it in the dead of winter if I don't... So guess I'm gonna have to wait a few months to order, but man seems like a solid setup reading all the info on it.

[bishopts]

Mine is supposed to be delivered today.
I'm so far on the edge of my seat that the chair is practically useless!

[DeuceCam]

Mine arrived early.

Upon inspection, I did notice there's still a small visible raised edge on the lower half of the tb bore, which can be seen in the attached pic. I'm assuming this is normal based on some of the other pics I've seen, but still wanted to point it out because I haven't seen it mentioned before.

I promptly installed the tb. M6 car. So far, I've only taken the car on 2 short 15 minute drives, so take my comments with a grain of salt. (I really need to take a spirited mountain road drive for the full experience.) That said, I did do a few WOT pulls to redline, for science

Throttle input feels subtlety different, in a good way. Overall throttle response improved. The throttle tip-in 'dead spot' is greatly reduced, potentially gone. Blips feel a little more crisp. I found the throttle response improvement more obvious when aggressively applying throttle angle.

It also maybe feels like the there's a *slight* improvement to top end power, but it could be a placebo effect.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Mine is supposed to be delivered today.
I'm so far on the edge of my seat that the chair is practically useless!

Once you get yours, can you post up what tune changes you found useful if I ask you really, really nicely? Just curious, but I have an idea and would like to see how a pro handles this. Many thanks in advance.

[bishopts]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Once you get yours, can you post up what tune changes you found useful if I ask you really, really nicely? Just curious, but I have an idea and would like to see how a pro handles this. Many thanks in advance.

Got it installed after work. I will spend the next couple of days putting it through its paces. Just snapping the throttle in the garage i can definitely notice a difference. Before when my shoe touched the pedal was no response, then as the resistance of the pedal return spring was overcome there was a whoosh from the intake but no rise in rpm immediately. Then when the rise in rpm came it was similar to the overcoming of a large obstacle followed by a feeling of too much effort has been applied.
Now it feels more linear. As my shoe hits the pedal the rpm is already on the rise and as my foot is overcoming the return spring pressure its almost like a softer feeling. Like less foot effort is getting more results compared to before.

Ive always had a problem with trying to keep it sideways while going through a turn. The pedal always felt like a hard to control balance of throttle to keep the tires spinning. Hopefully this helps with that.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Got it installed after work. I will spend the next couple of days putting it through its paces. Just snapping the throttle in the garage i can definitely notice a difference. Before when my shoe touched the pedal was no response, then as the resistance of the pedal return spring was overcome there was a whoosh from the intake but no rise in rpm immediately. Then when the rise in rpm came it was similar to the overcoming of a large obstacle followed by a feeling of too much effort has been applied.
Now it feels more linear. As my shoe hits the pedal the rpm is already on the rise and as my foot is overcoming the return spring pressure its almost like a softer feeling. Like less foot effort is getting more results compared to before.

Ive always had a problem with trying to keep it sideways while going through a turn. The pedal always felt like a hard to control balance of throttle to keep the tires spinning. Hopefully this helps with that.

Thanks, this makes sense as this TB appears to have more of a taper that helps airflow to be more gradual off idle.

I have a Soler TB that also has pre-cut notches to allow more air through at all times, which helps, but that change also comes with a large reduction in off-throttle engine braking near idle. The car basically coasts much-much longer in low gears at close to idle before finally dropping back to the normal, slow no-pedal creep (mine's an auto), which isn't ideal. I'm wondering if you'll see any of that with the Mamo, and if yes, how you'll tune around it

[Tony @ Mamo Motorsports]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Thanks, this makes sense as this TB appears to have more of a taper that helps airflow to be more gradual off idle.

I have a Soler TB that also has pre-cut notches to allow more air through at all times, which helps, but that change also comes with a large reduction in off-throttle engine braking near idle. The car basically coasts much-much longer in low gears at close to idle before finally dropping back to the normal, slow no-pedal creep (mine's an auto), which isn't ideal. I'm wondering if you'll see any of that with the Mamo, and if yes, how you'll tune around it

You wont have that issue with my design.....it's more progressive in the lower throttle angles and more aggressive past 50% throttle as some have noticed.

Also guys questioning more peak power I assure you that's real.....not placebo. Your TB is providing 23% more airflow at a higher rate of discharge speed also (complete win win when you get both!).

What happened to an old school engine when you put a larger carb on it.....unless you went overkill larger and hurt atomization of the fuel you almost always made more power. It's even more the rule with throttle bodies as your not concerned with atomizing fuel.....it's just an air valve and the more it flows the more power you have the potential to make.....especially if your also improving the airspeed which is dramatically enhanced here (the same 87 mm exit orifice is now moving 23% more air over stock).

Arpad....try one of my V3 TB's.....you have 30 days to make up your mind. I think you will be impressed with it and that situation you targeted will be eliminated.

Cheers,
Tony