[Maverick ZL1]

Originally Posted by IndyZrider

I'm biased....shock is the best color on these Z's...im not a Chevy guy but when I saw the shock camaro in 2019 I was like if I ever got one that's the color! Imo it makes the car...and competes with mopars awesome color offerings...

The shock ZL1 I'm interested in is also a 2021, can you let me know if you've had any issues with your car?
Someone said the 21's had some mechanical issues.
I can definitely think of one huge positive with the color "shock."
If you're ever in an accident, the other driver could never say, "officer I didn't see him." 😉

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

The shock ZL1 I'm interested in is also a 2021, can you let me know if you've had any issues with your car?
Someone said the 21's had some mechanical issues.
I can definitely think of one huge positive with the color "shock."
If you're ever in an accident, the other driver could never say, "officer I didn't see him." ��

There's no difference in all of the years mechanically or reliability other than the 2017-2018 model years had defective oil pumps that are known to go bad and replacing it is about $3-4K due to the labor involved. Some very early 2021s built within a 2 month window if I recall had bad lifters supposedly but I've never seen one reported and I owned an early built 2021 ZL1 for just over 4 years, modified to 700whp and never had any issues at all.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

My friend funny that you mentioned the black wing, I came across this video yesterday of a gentleman doing a review on the Black Wing and you can see in the video that he has a heck of a time getting all that power down, the rear end of the car is squirming around like crazy every time he gets on it a little bit.
Since the ZL1 basically has the same powertrain and HP as the ct5-v Blackwing, will I have the same issue with the ZL1?
Sure it's fun to play around now and then with the back end of the car, sliding it around.
However if it's going to be a continuous battle constantly fighting with the rear of the car, that might get old quickly.

https://youtu.be/v8nbhzBtmHk?si=JWz4zJITKn5f-3nb

Depends on what you expect. You will not be able to floor the car and get traction from a dead stop on the street with that much power, but with the proper tires and some heat in them, you should be able to hit it at ~30 mph and not have the rear end move on you. If you're okay with that, you will have a ton of fun.

My car doesn't squirm much under full throttle, by the way, and I have much more power and normal street tires, nothing special. If your alignment is spot on and, again, you have good tires with enough heat in them (how much you need depends on the tire), you should be golden. Look at the positive side, too: you won't need to press the brake pedal for a burnout

[Maverick ZL1]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Depends on what you expect. You will not be able to floor the car and get traction from a dead stop on the street with that much power, but with the proper tires and some heat in them, you should be able to hit it at ~30 mph and not have the rear end move on you. If you're okay with that, you will have a ton of fun.

My car doesn't squirm much under full throttle, by the way, and I have much more power and normal street tires, nothing special. If your alignment is spot on and, again, you have good tires with enough heat in them (how much you need depends on the tire), you should be golden. Look at the positive side, too: you won't need to press the brake pedal for a burnout

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense.
I've learned over the years of owning a lot of performance cars that I've always eventually wanted more power, I think that's inevitable
So why not start at the top.

[IndyZrider]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

The shock ZL1 I'm interested in is also a 2021, can you let me know if you've had any issues with your car?
Someone said the 21's had some mechanical issues.
I can definitely think of one huge positive with the color "shock."
If you're ever in an accident, the other driver could never say, "officer I didn't see him." 😉

Not at all...its a great car!

[Maverick ZL1]

Originally Posted by IndyZrider

Not at all...its a great car!

Glad to hear that.
👍👍

[roostere4]

Don't think you'll regret a ZL1 at all. Not too much power for the street, but if you want to can feel the torque even at low speeds. Also i've never had a problem putting the power down, especially with good tires and them not being cold. Only time i've really experience the backend going a little squirrely is putting down a little too much power on making a turn (BUT that is too be expected)

One other thing to really note is this comment

Originally Posted by bishopts

Don't forgot the ZL1 is one of the most stolen cars right now. Alternative security measures are highly recommended.

Definitely need to do this, as someone who has experienced a few theft attempts. If you don't it may be your only really regret owning a ZL1. Especially if you car is not going to be in typical home's garage, and/or if you are in a high auto theft area.

Also it might affect to some degree how you use your car. I drive and run errands around town all of the time, but I also don't leave it a random parking lot for any more than an hour(if that long) even in the middle of the day. So no running to the movies, or most other places where she will sit in one place for too long. Even though I know other than a tow truck my car really isn't going anywhere, mostly to avoid dealing with the after effects of an attempted theft.

However even if you don't have to park the car in a shared garage, or auto theft is not as big as where I am. I would still highly recommend at the very least looking at having an IGLA installed, and adding the anti-carjacking and diagnostic block options.

In addition if needing/wanting a little more deterrence/information checking out Compustar Alarm too. The alarm is much louder and annoying than the factory, plus depending on options selected notifications are much much more reliable than factory ones that someone has set off the alarm.

Or if not the above, make sure to add some theft deterrence/prevention other than the factory alarm and immobilizer which are pretty useless.

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

My friend funny that you mentioned the black wing, I came across this video yesterday of a gentleman doing a review on the Black Wing and you can see in the video that he has a heck of a time getting all that power down, the rear end of the car is squirming around like crazy every time he gets on it a little bit.
Since the ZL1 basically has the same powertrain and HP as the ct5-v Blackwing, will I have the same issue with the ZL1?
Sure it's fun to play around now and then with the back end of the car, sliding it around.
However if it's going to be a continuous battle constantly fighting with the rear of the car, that might get old quickly.

https://youtu.be/v8nbhzBtmHk?si=JWz4zJITKn5f-3nb

I won’t lie—both cars will wiggle the rear end under the right circumstances. There are threads here and over on the Cadillac forums talking about this issue. Fixes seem to be all over the place, from alignment tweaks and tire changes to toe-link lockout kits and solid bushings.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

My friend funny that you mentioned the black wing, I came across this video yesterday of a gentleman doing a review on the Black Wing and you can see in the video that he has a heck of a time getting all that power down, the rear end of the car is squirming around like crazy every time he gets on it a little bit.
Since the ZL1 basically has the same powertrain and HP as the ct5-v Blackwing, will I have the same issue with the ZL1?
Sure it's fun to play around now and then with the back end of the car, sliding it around.
However if it's going to be a continuous battle constantly fighting with the rear of the car, that might get old quickly.

https://youtu.be/v8nbhzBtmHk?si=JWz4zJITKn5f-3nb

The ZL1 rear end squirm can be fixed rather easily with a BMR rear cradle lock-out kit. Unfortunately, they don't have a kit for the Blackwing. Some people claim that SPL rear toe links will fix it in the Blackwing.

[Maverick ZL1]

Originally Posted by roostere4

Don't think you'll regret a ZL1 at all. Not too much power for the street, but if you want to can feel the torque even at low speeds. Also i've never had a problem putting the power down, especially with good tires and them not being cold. Only time i've really experience the backend going a little squirrely is putting down a little too much power on making a turn (BUT that is too be expected)

One other thing to really note is this comment



Definitely need to do this, as someone who has experienced a few theft attempts. If you don't it may be your only really regret owning a ZL1. Especially if you car is not going to be in typical home's garage, and/or if you are in a high auto theft area.

Also it might affect to some degree how you use your car. I drive and run errands around town all of the time, but I also don't leave it a random parking lot for any more than an hour(if that long) even in the middle of the day. So no running to the movies, or most other places where she will sit in one place for too long. Even though I know other than a tow truck my car really isn't going anywhere, mostly to avoid dealing with the after effects of an attempted theft.

However even if you don't have to park the car in a shared garage, or auto theft is not as big as where I am. I would still highly recommend at the very least looking at having an IGLA installed, and adding the anti-carjacking and diagnostic block options.

In addition if needing/wanting a little more deterrence/information checking out Compustar Alarm too. The alarm is much louder and annoying than the factory, plus depending on options selected notifications are much much more reliable than factory ones that someone has set off the alarm.

Or if not the above, make sure to add some theft deterrence/prevention other than the factory alarm and immobilizer which are pretty useless.

Well that really sucks that you always have to worry about where you park and for how long.
And having the idea of your car being stolen constantly in the back of your mind, which kind of ruins the experience of owning a ZL1.
Does anyone know if most of these thefts are from getting the key fob signal and driving away or are they being towed away.
I've seen YouTube videos where you add a module to your car and every time you get in you have to punch in a code using the buttons on the steering wheel otherwise the car won't start but I guess you still have to worry about tow trucks, I don't think you can get around that.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

Well that really sucks that you always have to worry about where you park and for how long.
And having the idea of your car being stolen constantly in the back of your mind, which kind of ruins the experience of owning a ZL1.
Does anyone know if most of these thefts are from getting the key fob signal and driving away or are they being towed away.
I've seen YouTube videos where you add a module to your car and every time you get in you have to punch in a code using the buttons on the steering wheel otherwise the car won't start but I guess you still have to worry about tow trucks, I don't think you can get around that.

Tow truck thefts are very rare compared to other popular methods. Also, these ZL1 thefts are concentrated to specific areas, if you don't go there, you should be fine and don't need to worry every single day.

Deterrents available to you (since you're in Canada) include steering wheel bars, a starter/fuel pump relay (aka Mobilistics), OBD-II port relocation or maybe higher end alarm solutions like IGLA, similar to what you've seen on youtube.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Maverick ZL1

Well that really sucks that you always have to worry about where you park and for how long.
And having the idea of your car being stolen constantly in the back of your mind, which kind of ruins the experience of owning a ZL1.
Does anyone know if most of these thefts are from getting the key fob signal and driving away or are they being towed away.
I've seen YouTube videos where you add a module to your car and every time you get in you have to punch in a code using the buttons on the steering wheel otherwise the car won't start but I guess you still have to worry about tow trucks, I don't think you can get around that.

I see your location is near the auto theft capital of the world. In that case I would not buy any V8 Camaro if I were you unless you have a garage AND you only drive the car from point A to point A only.

[RobZL1]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

I see your location is near the auto theft capital of the world. In that case I would not buy any V8 Camaro if I were you unless you have a garage AND you only drive the car from point A to point A only.

Ontario?
I would have guessed the Bay area or Texas.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by RobZL1

Ontario?
I would have guessed the Bay area or Texas.

Toronto specifically, which Hamilton is very close too.