[Number 3]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

when i see people posting about shopping for antique's and golf clubs....do you not realize pony cars were born in the 60s for young people?

that market no longer exists . people don't come out of high school into good paying blue collar jobs anymore. at one point when my dad was in his mid 20s he had two cars and a small house he bought on the GI bill after being drafted, all on just a blue collar salary. by the time people get through college today they're buying 'sensible' cars. i've said it many times over the years, but people keep making up other reasons. that market started drying up 35 years ago and never came back. and it's not 'lack of testosterone' either because sales of trucks tripled. the Camaro can't be all things to all people. even at the height of 5thgen sales it was only selling what the camaro and firebird were selling combined 25 years ago. now alone in the market the mustang isn't selling all that well.

Did you realize two sets of golf clubs fit in a Gen5 and easily fit in a current Mustang? And the ATS coupe, the same architecture as the Camaro also can get two sets in the trunk. Annnnd the Gen5, 6 and 8 Corvettes do the same.

It was just a choice GM made. BUT I can assure you GM used its internal test for luggage and convinced themselves they could put golf clubs in the trunk. The problem is what GM uses for that test are clubs from the 1960s in a canvas Sunday bag. The driver is 3” shorter than today’s and in my test, I could get my clubs in the trunk of the Gen6 Camaro IF I PUT THE DRIVER IN THE BACK SEAT.

But that is just the example of the fact the trunk is smaller. Top that off with a high lift over and yo7 have a trunk less usable than the other two players in the segment.

Now going antiquing is a new one.

[CHASLT1]

The C6's and 7's could hold so much in the back.

[Reiser]

Living in France, where the only imported Chevrolets are Aveos, Sparks, and other bland cars of the same ilk, it was thanks to Hawaii Five-0 that I fell in love with the 6th generation Camaro. The 5th generation was also cool in Transformers. These are the only examples of advertising or collaboration I know of, compared to Mustangs, which are more often featured in movies or TV series. A few years ago, European sports cars were certainly high-performing, had good handling, etc., but in my opinion, they were too "serious" and had overly rounded, generic shapes. I'm not talking about Italian cars; they're magnificent but too expensive. Furthermore, the engines were almost always 6-cylinders for the German cars, or even just 4-cylinders for our French ones, so no great sound.

[CHASLT1]

The trunks sucked in my 2015 GT and 2021 LT1 as my Yetis cooler would not fit. Go right in my C6's.

[AZCamaroFan]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Did you realize two sets of golf clubs fit in a Gen5 and easily fit in a current Mustang? And the ATS coupe, the same architecture as the Camaro also can get two sets in the trunk. Annnnd the Gen5, 6 and 8 Corvettes do the same.

It was just a choice GM made. BUT I can assure you GM used its internal test for luggage and convinced themselves they could put golf clubs in the trunk. The problem is what GM uses for that test are clubs from the 1960s in a canvas Sunday bag. The driver is 3” shorter than today’s and in my test, I could get my clubs in the trunk of the Gen6 Camaro IF I PUT THE DRIVER IN THE BACK SEAT.

But that is just the example of the fact the trunk is smaller. Top that off with a high lift over and yo7 have a trunk less usable than the other two players in the segment.

Now going antiquing is a new one.

i wish i had a dollar for every time i heard about your golf clubs.

also as i've said before the 5thgen was an aberration. i think there's no way golf clubs fit underneath the hatch of the 3rd and 4th gens.

[cthulhucaller]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

i wish i had a dollar for every time i heard about your golf clubs.

also as i've said before the 5thgen was an aberration. i think there's no way golf clubs fit underneath the hatch of the 3rd and 4th gens.

The 4th gen had a ridiculous amount of room when you folded the back seats down. I daily drove a 94 Z28, and amused myself and my family with how much you could toss in it. I have never taken any golf clubs anywhere, but you could get a set of tires in it to go to the tire shop. Mine mostly carried networking equipment when it was the most expedient manner of getting the dotcom years moving quickly, and could carry a lot of it.

Now I don't need to carry a lot of stuff, just two laptops. I only have to be places once or twice a week for work, and my 22 SS is definitely a fun way to get there. It also does grocery and Costco trips, as my wife would rather ride with me in my car than in hers. It does well. You can fit 28 pieces of Bermuda sod in the trunk, and I keep a tarp under the trunk mat for stuff like that. You have to really slow roll it on dirt and gravel roads to stop the rocks from doing bad work on the paint, but it's doable.

I try to spend as little time as possible in boring cars. I also enjoy detailing and cleaning, so the car always looks great. The only time we really take my wife's car is to areas where Camaros tend to vanish if left unattended too long.

[AZCamaroFan]

sure when you fold the seats down, but he's talking about just in the trunk. you can also put a golf club bag through the pass through of the 6thgen, but he doesn't want that, he wants them just in the trunk.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by cthulhucaller

... It also does grocery and Costco trips, ...

Believe it or not, I do Costco trips in my MR2 Turbo. Granted, it's typically not a BIG trip. We use the Tesla or my Equinox EV for those. But since I run my Camaro on E85 ($2.45/gal) the MR2 is the only vehicle in our household that refuels at Costco. So while I'm there I pick up the 40lb bag of dog food, two flats of canned dog food, and if we need it the big ass packs of toilet paper or paper towel. The trunk behind the engine is surprisingly deep and can fit the big paper. Plus there's a small frunk, and when needed, the passenger seat.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

sure when you fold the seats down, but he's talking about just in the trunk. you can also put a golf club bag through the pass through of the 6thgen, but he doesn't want that, he wants them just in the trunk.

Coupe, yes. Convertible no. The rear seats don't fold down in a vert

So I wind up doing what Number 3 describes. If I put my clubs in the trunk, the driver has to come out and go in the back seat. TBH, typically if it's nice enough to go golfing it's nice enough to roll with the top down and then I just drop the whole bag into the back seat.

[edog]

Originally Posted by lowke

Attachment 1170282I think the gen6 is great. I couldn't have got a better car for $29k new.I took a little while to get use to but now it's like the back of my hand. Lightweight wheels, Bilstein dampers and a cat back exhaust have made it the best I've owned.I think the people who designed it had a purpose that went beyond practical without going to far.

Beautiful ride.

[AZCamaroFan]

when i had 3rd and 4th gens i had a friend in a wheelchair. other friends and i would take him places. his folded up wheelchair would not fit under those rear hatches, and that wasn't something i was even going to try and stuff in the back seat.

[Corky]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Agree with the comments about the Camaro simply being more “hardcore” than the equivalent Mustang (for example SS vs GT). Even before I modded my 2SS, it was definitely more “track” oriented” than my wife’s equivalent Mustang GT Premium. That said, although the Camaro FELT faster on the street due to the torque of the 6.2 engine, it actually wasn’t any faster 0-60 or 1/4 mile than the Gen3 Coyote Mustang. So that brings me back to my earlier comment about “muscle cars”. If you can get similar straight line performance out of more comfortable, easier to live with car, I can see why the Mustang sold.

On a more selfish level, I’m so glad the Camaro existed in its form. I honestly feel like it’s a safer, better, lighter & more ridged platform to go 150+ MPH in the quarter mile in BECAUSE of the fact that it was designed to be a performance car first and everything else second.

So, why not both LMAO Agree that is first world thing lol

Nice toy bin...Looks like you're really roughing it...LOL....

[DeuceCam]

Nice Mr. 2!

[bishopts]

I can't believe this thread is still going lol