[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by RallyRunner

sorry to hear this OP. i'd be nervous enough leaving my lowly LT1 outside in a driveway or apartment, let alone a big boy ZL1. do you have an immovable project taking up the garage, or maybe the wife's car (in which case i understand you don't wanna rock that boat)? might be time to let the camaro in there to stay out of sight at night.

and i'm surprised nobody's said it but please don't murder someone for breaking into your car if they aren't threatening your life. regardless of legality, i can almost guarantee the legal fees would be deep enough to buy you 3 ZL1's.

2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution: “The Right to Keep and Bear Arms” Amendment Two to the Constitution was ratified on December 15, 1791. It protects the right for Americans to possess weapons for the protection of themselves, their rights, and their property.

The Supremacy Clause, located in Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution, establishes that the U.S. Constitution, federal laws made under it, and treaties are the "supreme Law of the Land". This means that if a state or local law conflicts with a valid federal law or treaty, the federal law takes precedence, and state courts must follow it.

Breaking one law doesn't obsolve criminals from a law abiding citizen invoking their rights. Not saying, just saying.

[hrpiii]

I wanted to read this story along the lines of "I activated my AR-15" an it scared the last guy that could run away leaving his un-alived friends behind.

[haggler]

Yeah, we live in a town house in SGV and I actually need another car for my child but we only have 2 spots in the garage and I am not parking my SS in the street. I did the BCM recall update and have a dummy obd2 with data link pin deleted. OBD2 will power but no data. I may purchase a club too but fortunately I simply don't drive anyway shady and park somewhere like downtown LA. The 6 speed manual is a deterrent for these kids too, lol.

[DamonZ28]

Originally Posted by haggler

The 6 speed manual is a deterrent for these kids too, lol.

This is a common misconception. Sure, it may stop some wanna-be thieves, but it doesn't stop most of them. Someone on this board did a little research of stolen Camaros in Houston, and more than half were 6 speed manuals.

[RallyRunner]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Not saying, just saying.

at least in my state (deep south), you can't just decide to go blasting if someone touches your stuff unless you reasonably believe that it is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony or violent act against you which isn't just an act against property but a threat to life as well. don't get mad at me, i don't make the rules.

i'd rather just find a better place to park my car and not spend 6 digits defending myself in court.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by RallyRunner

at least in my state (deep south), you can't just decide to go blasting if someone touches your stuff unless you reasonably believe that it is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony or violent act against you which isn't just an act against property but a threat to life as well. don't get mad at me, i don't make the rules.

i'd rather just find a better place to park my car and not spend 6 digits defending myself in court.

Also, the dead guy that threated to come back and kill you, your family and your dog if you called the cops, will not get a chance to deny that.

[Abubaca]

Wonder how many have actually "been there". How many of you have ever been involved in an ultra-violent situation? -and I'm sorry if you have. The only guarantee about introducing a firearm into a situation where personal safety isn't in question, is that you've now made the situation worse. For you, at the very least.

Even if you can guarantee a fatal shot (no guarantee), and if you're SURE you won't be killed yourself (no guarantee), AND the thief doesn't have a partner, which, we KNOW he will in the case of these cars, -you still potentially open yourself, family and others to possible stray bullets, and retribution from their friends and family, legal or otherwise. Even IF you can guarantee those situations will work out well for you..... ....you can still GUARANTEE a lengthy and expensive legal battle, regardless of whether or not you ultimately win.

The legal complexity of a self defense shooting these days, like it or not, is where we are. .....I wouldn't even want to THINK about trying to defend myself for killing someone to protect my car. The thieves? -they can rot, alive or dead, that's not my issue. They deserve what they get, but I don't even begin the understand the idea of opening myself and my family up to what can happen for killing someone over a car.

[RallyRunner]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Also, the dead guy that threated to come back and kill you, your family and your dog if you called the cops, will not get a chance to deny that.

now we're moving the goal posts with "what if's". this has nothing to do with the original point being made.

Originally Posted by Abubaca

They deserve what they get, but I don't even begin the understand the idea of opening myself and my family up to what can happen for killing someone over a car.

thank you for putting this more succinctly than i could.

anyway, to the OP, if you can't get it in the garage in the short term, consider more outdoor lighting and/or closely blocking it in with another vehicle to prevent them coming with a rollback. pain in the butt, i know. good job with the current setup!

[HankVA]

Originally Posted by Abubaca

Wonder how many have actually "been there". How many of you have ever been involved in an ultra-violent situation? -and I'm sorry if you have. The only guarantee about introducing a firearm into a situation where personal safety isn't in question, is that you've now made the situation worse. For you, at the very least.

Even if you can guarantee a fatal shot (no guarantee), and if you're SURE you won't be killed yourself (no guarantee), AND the thief doesn't have a partner, which, we KNOW he will in the case of these cars, -you still potentially open yourself, family and others to possible stray bullets, and retribution from their friends and family, legal or otherwise. Even IF you can guarantee those situations will work out well for you..... ....you can still GUARANTEE a lengthy and expensive legal battle, regardless of whether or not you ultimately win.

The legal complexity of a self defense shooting these days, like it or not, is where we are. .....I wouldn't even want to THINK about trying to defend myself for killing someone to protect my car. The thieves? -they can rot, alive or dead, that's not my issue. They deserve what they get, but I don't even begin the understand the idea of opening myself and my family up to what can happen for killing someone over a car.

Well Said! There's a lot of stories out there like this. I wouldn't wish this on anyone ... know the laws in your area, friends.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/20/us-new...205%2C%202023.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Abubaca

Wonder how many have actually "been there". How many of you have ever been involved in an ultra-violent situation? -and I'm sorry if you have. The only guarantee about introducing a firearm into a situation where personal safety isn't in question, is that you've now made the situation worse. For you, at the very least.

Even if you can guarantee a fatal shot (no guarantee), and if you're SURE you won't be killed yourself (no guarantee), AND the thief doesn't have a partner, which, we KNOW he will in the case of these cars, -you still potentially open yourself, family and others to possible stray bullets, and retribution from their friends and family, legal or otherwise. Even IF you can guarantee those situations will work out well for you..... ....you can still GUARANTEE a lengthy and expensive legal battle, regardless of whether or not you ultimately win.

The legal complexity of a self defense shooting these days, like it or not, is where we are. .....I wouldn't even want to THINK about trying to defend myself for killing someone to protect my car. The thieves? -they can rot, alive or dead, that's not my issue. They deserve what they get, but I don't even begin the understand the idea of opening myself and my family up to what can happen for killing someone over a car.

This x100. I can’t even begin to imagine the legal fee’s after shooting someone (legal or not). Also I’d like to add one more thing, everyone claiming they’d shoot a thief, you’re probably going to wind up putting a bullet hole or two in your car. Do you really want the car after that?

If someone stole my Camaro I’d honestly take the insurance money and just try something new and different.maybe I’ll find something else that I like and is fun.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by RallyRunner

at least in my state (deep south), you can't just decide to go blasting if someone touches your stuff unless you reasonably believe that it is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony or violent act against you which isn't just an act against property but a threat to life as well. don't get mad at me, i don't make the rules.

i'd rather just find a better place to park my car and not spend 6 digits defending myself in court.

The Supremacy Clause, located in Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution, establishes that the U.S. Constitution, federal laws made under it, and treaties are the "supreme Law of the Land". This means that if a state or local law conflicts with a valid federal law or treaty, the federal law takes precedence, and state courts must follow it.

Not saying just saying.

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Also, the dead guy that threated to come back and kill you, your family and your dog if you called the cops, will not get a chance to deny that.

^ This guy gets it.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Abubaca

Wonder how many have actually "been there". How many of you have ever been involved in an ultra-violent situation? -and I'm sorry if you have. The only guarantee about introducing a firearm into a situation where personal safety isn't in question, is that you've now made the situation worse. For you, at the very least.

Even if you can guarantee a fatal shot (no guarantee), and if you're SURE you won't be killed yourself (no guarantee), AND the thief doesn't have a partner, which, we KNOW he will in the case of these cars, -you still potentially open yourself, family and others to possible stray bullets, and retribution from their friends and family, legal or otherwise. Even IF you can guarantee those situations will work out well for you..... ....you can still GUARANTEE a lengthy and expensive legal battle, regardless of whether or not you ultimately win.

The legal complexity of a self defense shooting these days, like it or not, is where we are. .....I wouldn't even want to THINK about trying to defend myself for killing someone to protect my car. The thieves? -they can rot, alive or dead, that's not my issue. They deserve what they get, but I don't even begin the understand the idea of opening myself and my family up to what can happen for killing someone over a car.

Does car jacking count?

Guy asked for a ride down the street, was followed by someone in a Lexus rather large burly african american fellow. The guy I was giving a ride to said that was his friend.

That's when I realized I was being setup.

Needless to say the guy I was giving a ride to saw his life flash before his eyes at 120mph when I told him if you pull a weapon, the last thing you will see is a tree.

Then I told him to get the ef out of the car, and sped off almost hitting him when the car fishtailed.

You don't need a gun to kill someone, and cars kill more people than law abiding citizens with guns.

[arpad_m]

Guess you guys just want to keep the keys close to your front door and even open it for the perps, lest they get aggravated and harm you or your family...

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

This x100. I can’t even begin to imagine the legal fee’s after shooting someone (legal or not). Also I’d like to add one more thing, everyone claiming they’d shoot a thief, you’re probably going to wind up putting a bullet hole or two in your car. Do you really want the car after that?

If someone stole my Camaro I’d honestly take the insurance money and just try something new and different.maybe I’ll find something else that I like and is fun.

Easy to say when you don't have credit problems due to real life shit happening in your life.

Taking the money does nothing for me, I won't be able to get another car anyways. I've got nothing to lose, and everything to gain by fighting back.

I worked my ass off to get what I have, and I'll be damned if someone is going to take it from me unchallenged.