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Old 07-21-2024, 09:21 AM   #15
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I can appreciate the Blackwing however, I've never been into any Cadillacs, so it's a no from me. I definitely would not get one just to replace my ZL1, but to each their own!
Curious, is it the design language of Cadillacs that make them a turn off for you or something else?

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The CT5-V Blackwing is a very significant car, but I wouldn't trade my Camaro for one.
As I am doing more research on it, I am starting to have doubts if it's the right upgrade. Part of me feels I would regret it if I sell the 1LE. I don't particularly need the rear seats. Maybe I should have gotten a ZL1 instead .

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Just to say I did order a 2025 CT4 BW The 2025 CT5 is too big. Yes it's got a 6 cyl. turbo but all the fun stuff I need to be happy with.

Congrats. I went with a friend while he test drove a CT4 BW. Very nice car. I thought the exhaust on the CT4 BW was very tame though.
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Old 07-21-2024, 09:25 AM   #16
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After a year of owning my ’23 2SS 1LE, thinking of moving into something else. I love the 1LE and it brings a smile to my face every time I drive it. I honestly can’t think of anything lacking on the 1LE for me to consider switching so I believe it’s just an upgrade itch I am currently experiencing 😊.

If I were to upgrade, manual and v8 are requirements for me so strongly considering the CT5-V BW. I prefer the mid-year refresh front-end so would only get a 2025+ model. Anyone considered this switch or has already made this switch?

P.S. I test drove a friend’s C8 Z06 and it was incredible. Only car I would be willing to forgo a manual as of right now. But unfortunately, it’s out of my price range.
If you can’t afford a Z06 how do you afford a CT5-V BW?
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Old 07-21-2024, 09:28 AM   #17
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I didn't trade/sell my Camaro. It just sits more often than it used to.
I bought a 2022 BW in March. I love my Camaro and I imagine driving the BW is something like the ZL1 in its power/thrill/enjoyment level. There is something similar in driving them but the BW has become my go to car no real contest.
Very nice. Love that color on it!

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I almost got one. But the 122k out the door, was too much. Got the ZL1 for 42k cheaper.
Starting to think I should have gotten a ZL1 instead though I don't particularly feel like the SS 1LE is lacking in power though .

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Would love to get one as we are fixin to get the wife a new car but most are drastically over priced and I do not play games with dealers to good!
From the research I did, it looks like Sewell doesn't charge mark-ups. If I do end up getting one, would most likely get it from Sewell Houston. I used to live in Houston anyways.
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Old 07-21-2024, 09:38 AM   #18
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If you can’t afford a Z06 how do you afford a CT5-V BW?
There is about a >$40k difference between the two .
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Old 07-21-2024, 10:17 AM   #19
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[QUOTE=weekend_cruiser;11436362]Curious, is it the design language of Cadillacs that make them a turn off for you or something else?

Yes, it's been a combination of looks and the stupid price tags on Cadillacs(yes, I know Cadillacs have usually been high priced.) That said, the Blackwing is probably the "best" looking cadillac out there, and has power to boot. I've also never been in to the 4-door sports cars. I like my 2 doors just fine and have other daily's for the family. . Sure, the BW has 18 more hp, and 4 doors(if you're into that sort of thing).. it's also a little heavier(yes, only about 200-ish lbs,
but the bigger issue to me is that it's 30-40k higher in price than my ZL1 was. The heavier weight, 4 doors and 18 hp isn't enough to justify 100k or more for that car in particular.
NOT bashing the BW at all! It's a great car for sure! Just giving MY opinion as to why it's not FOR ME.
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Old 07-21-2024, 11:17 AM   #20
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Very nice. Love that color on it!

From the research I did, it looks like Sewell doesn't charge mark-ups. If I do end up getting one, would most likely get it from Sewell Houston. I used to live in Houston anyways.
Thanks. It was not my first choice color but has grown on me and I do appreciate it.
It seems Sewell is definitely a well liked dealership from the Cadillac forums. Probably one of the best choices if you dont like games or not wanting to test several closer dealers to see how they behave.

For disclosure I did not buy mine new and would not have paid the 122$K sticker for it in 2022. It was a CPO car in March of this year and in comparison to others I had looked into it was a steal at 91$K and I got a good trade in deal on my 2021 2500 Silverado.
I kept the Camaro as my sports car and the BW was replacing my family/DD the Silverado. I have another older Silverado for the "truck need" and didnt need another truck.


Up until this car I was very much in the opinion of Nytmare23 as well. 4 door cars were not my thing. I had sports car and I had a truck (4 doors) for family and truck stuff. I was just in a position now where the truck could become more of the "as needed" vs multi task vehicle. The BW is about the only 4 door that has ever excited me. So I figured why not?
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Old 07-21-2024, 11:42 AM   #21
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P.S. I test drove a friend’s C8 Z06 and it was incredible. Only car I would be willing to forgo a manual as of right now. But unfortunately, it’s out of my price range.
Same except a Porsche GT3 RS and standard GT3 I’d also be okay forgoing the manual.
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Old 07-21-2024, 12:25 PM   #22
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Considered? Absolutely! Afford? If I sold the Camaro, which ain’t happenin.

If I wanted to cash out some stock I’d buy one but I’m not doing that right now.
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Old 07-21-2024, 12:30 PM   #23
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I have been looking at the BW as a replacement for my Hyundai Genesis R-Spec as my DD when I retire in a couple of years. I have always liked a sedan with some power if for no other reason than to screw with the Mustang kids. I have no intention of getting rid of my Camaro though, its going in the will unless my family pisses me off.
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Old 07-21-2024, 12:50 PM   #24
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Yes, I am currently considering it. I have more cars than I really need. My LE has been great, but I have more need for access to the back seats than I used to. Right now, I have multiple vehicles that all serve a single/ more focused purpose. Combining the DD and track car is appealing.
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Old 07-21-2024, 02:37 PM   #25
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There is about a >$40k difference between the two .
You can buy Z06s for 120-130k all day long.
It goes like this- If you cant afford 150k, you cant afford 120k.
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Old 07-21-2024, 06:57 PM   #26
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Curious, is it the design language of Cadillacs that make them a turn off for you or something else?

Yes, it's been a combination of looks and the stupid price tags on Cadillacs(yes, I know Cadillacs have usually been high priced.) That said, the Blackwing is probably the "best" looking cadillac out there, and has power to boot. I've also never been in to the 4-door sports cars. I like my 2 doors just fine and have other daily's for the family. . Sure, the BW has 18 more hp, and 4 doors(if you're into that sort of thing).. it's also a little heavier(yes, only about 200-ish lbs,
but the bigger issue to me is that it's 30-40k higher in price than my ZL1 was. The heavier weight, 4 doors and 18 hp isn't enough to justify 100k or more for that car in particular.
NOT bashing the BW at all! It's a great car for sure! Just giving MY opinion as to why it's not FOR ME.
Right on.

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Thanks. It was not my first choice color but has grown on me and I do appreciate it.
It seems Sewell is definitely a well liked dealership from the Cadillac forums. Probably one of the best choices if you dont like games or not wanting to test several closer dealers to see how they behave.

For disclosure I did not buy mine new and would not have paid the 122$K sticker for it in 2022. It was a CPO car in March of this year and in comparison to others I had looked into it was a steal at 91$K and I got a good trade in deal on my 2021 2500 Silverado.
I kept the Camaro as my sports car and the BW was replacing my family/DD the Silverado. I have another older Silverado for the "truck need" and didnt need another truck.


Up until this car I was very much in the opinion of Nytmare23 as well. 4 door cars were not my thing. I had sports car and I had a truck (4 doors) for family and truck stuff. I was just in a position now where the truck could become more of the "as needed" vs multi task vehicle. The BW is about the only 4 door that has ever excited me. So I figured why not?
That's a great price. It's funny you mention replacing your Silverado with the BW because a friend told me to replace my Sierra AT4 with the BW instead as my DD. I don't know, I like having the truck .

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Same except a Porsche GT3 RS and standard GT3 I’d also be okay forgoing the manual.
Hahaha.
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Old 07-21-2024, 07:12 PM   #27
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Considered? Absolutely! Afford? If I sold the Camaro, which ain’t happenin.

If I wanted to cash out some stock I’d buy one but I’m not doing that right now.
I am seeing in pretty much all the responses that a lot of owners are really attached to their Camaros .

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You can buy Z06s for 120-130k all day long.
It goes like this- If you cant afford 150k, you cant afford 120k.
I don't care much for the carbon fiber stuff or carbon ceramic brakes so the CT5 BW by default comes almost equipped the way I would want it. My configuration lands at $101k. Granted I don't know yet what the 2025 will come out to.

If I got a Z06, it would have to be a 3LZ trim which is 130k. That in itself is not bad but most of the ones you will find on the lot have a fair amount of options which I don't particularly care for pushing past 150k. Affordability doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. I personally I am not willing to drop 150k on a vehicle at this point in my life .
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Old 07-21-2024, 09:16 PM   #28
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As soon as they make the coupe version.
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