[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by dfxrte

check this out -- disabled PTS button with no relocation required




Also IGLA to me seems too intrusive to the ECU, i don't know, maybe I'm wrong

Very cool! Only $175 Canadian it can also block the OBD 2 port.

Review vid
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u2RDM7srSw0

[dfxrte]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

Very cool! Only $175 Canadian

ya! Shop near me has it installed for 400$ i believe.

[roostere4]

I just recently got IGLA installed and it is awesome! I still retain all the functionality I want with the car remote start via either Fob or app, yet know it's protected.

The car isn't being stolen unless you enter the right pin. They can relay attack, or program a new key(actually might not even possible), or hell I could give them my keys without that's pin they aren't driving away.

Plus if entering the pin is too there are some more options for authorization to drive like a separate fob, or app on your phone. Obviously these will lower your security posture to some degree depending on how you use them. Ie if you keep the IGLA fob with your regular fob and your keys are stolen, then obviously you won't have protection.

Plus there are additional options that can be added to the base to prevent carjacking.

As for interfering original harness isn't cut, the IGLA just is spliced in. So if for some reason it fails, it fails open allowing normal operation. Also it is fairly easily to place it in a service mode, or even disable it entirely if you need to for any reason.

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by dfxrte

there are immobilizer kits you can install and hide deep in the dash which deactivates the push to start button. has a remote you activate the car with and have 12 seconds after activation to start the car.

same company also makes an obd2 immobilizer but the company confirmed you cannot disable the immobilizer to the push to start button via obd2 access

I'm working (with a lot of help from a friend) on a DIY setup using two of these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097GLMDM3...roduct_details

a dummy OBD pigtail, a reset button, and a piezo siren. If we get it working correctly, it will sound an alarm and lock out the PTS button. It will still allow remote starting. The siren and the PTS button lockout will be on independent timers.

If someone plugs into the dummy OBD, the siren will screech and the PTS will be locked out until the timers run out or the button resets them both. The entire solution will be under the dash. More to follow, I can draw up a decent schematic with some pictures, if there's any interest. Total cost is under $100 in parts, all bought on Amazon. I'll try to include a List of Materials.

We worked on this for a while yesterday, first going after the starter relay and eventually deciding it was easier and just as effective to go after the PTS button. If someone were to rip out everything from the under the dash, the car would not start. There should be no parasitic draw unless an OBD device is plugged into the dummy port, which activates the timer relay boards. The dummy port will look "live" and the only factory wire that gets severed will be in the PTS button module, everything else can be done using posi-taps. Pressing the reset button will disable/disarm both timers if they are activated. The physical profile should be small enough to easily stuff under the dash, mainly just the two timers and the small siren, with a some small gauge wires.

[Deacon Blues]

Not sure how accurate this is, but was reading about a theft on Reddit and they mentioned the Autel tool thieves are using to generate a new key don't need a physical connection to the OBD port. Hope that isn't the case, because I was planning on getting an OBD lock to go with the mobilistics starter relay.

[SS_Don]

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Not sure how accurate this is, but was reading about a theft on Reddit and they mentioned the Autel tool thieves are using to generate a new key don't need a physical connection to the OBD port. Hope that isn't the case, because I was planning on getting an OBD lock to go with the mobilistics starter relay.

Did you get the TX-21 Nostart Hardwired Transmitter with the Mobilistics relay? It says it allows remote start to work.
https://www.mobilistics.com/tx-21-no...d-transmitter/

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by SS_Don

Did you get the TX-21 Nostart Hardwired Transmitter with the Mobilistics relay? It says it allows remote start to work.
https://www.mobilistics.com/tx-21-no...d-transmitter/

Haven't ordered one yet, as my Camaro is sleeping for the winter here in the Northeast. However, I was planning on going with the relay and fob they sell rather than something hardwired. Since mine is M6 I don't have to worry about remote start.

[Itethai]

Kill switch man, something plain and simple. I’ve had one in most cars I’ve had since the mid 80’s, inclusive of my Camaro. I know it’s prevented one of my cars from being stolen.

[roostere4]

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Not sure how accurate this is, but was reading about a theft on Reddit and they mentioned the Autel tool thieves are using to generate a new key don't need a physical connection to the OBD port. Hope that isn't the case, because I was planning on getting an OBD lock to go with the mobilistics starter relay.

As long as you can access the CAN bus you i believe get access to the ECM. Whether that is through a headlight or one of the USB ports even. Which would allow key programming. That's why if you look thieves have been going after the headlights on Mopar cars

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by roostere4

As long as you can access the CAN bus you i believe get access to the ECM. Whether that is through a headlight or one of the USB ports even. Which would allow key programming. That's why if you look thieves have been going after the headlights on Mopar cars

Can the CAN bus or ECM be accessed wirelessly? Because that's what some of the most recent comments about thefts have been implying. I didn't think that's possible...

[z28pat]

Originally Posted by dfxrte

check this out -- disabled PTS button with no relocation required




Also IGLA to me seems too intrusive to the ECU, i don't know, maybe I'm wrong

This seems like a good option but you’re cutting wires which is even more intrusive than the igla system isn’t it?

[MakCamaro]

Originally Posted by roostere4

I just recently got IGLA installed and it is awesome! I still retain all the functionality I want with the car remote start via either Fob or app, yet know it's protected.

The car isn't being stolen unless you enter the right pin. They can relay attack, or program a new key(actually might not even possible), or hell I could give them my keys without that's pin they aren't driving away.

Plus if entering the pin is too there are some more options for authorization to drive like a separate fob, or app on your phone. Obviously these will lower your security posture to some degree depending on how you use them. Ie if you keep the IGLA fob with your regular fob and your keys are stolen, then obviously you won't have protection.

Plus there are additional options that can be added to the base to prevent carjacking.

As for interfering original harness isn't cut, the IGLA just is spliced in. So if for some reason it fails, it fails open allowing normal operation. Also it is fairly easily to place it in a service mode, or even disable it entirely if you need to for any reason.

Can you please let me know which product you installed? It shows multiple products on their website and I am a bit confused...

[driftking123]

Originally Posted by Evergreen6

Wow, this disassembled quickly.

The first important step is, if you have to park outside - lots of people do - make sure you're locking your doors, not leaving things inside the vehicle (including any garage remotes, house keys, etc for those that park outside but have a garage). Try not to be a target.

I don't think a kill switch is a bad idea. The olden days of taking the coil wire or swapping around some plug wires so a dumb thief can't start the car is the same idea.

The batteries in these things are in the trunk. I wonder if there's a way to wire a remote relay/solenoid that disconnects the battery via a remote you carry with your key. Meanwhile you could install a small 12v memory saving device farther up to save electronic settings, but not enough juice to actually start the car.

Remote Battery Disconnect Switch 12v, 250A, Prevent Battery Drain, Disconnect Negative Car Kill Switch Anti-Theft, Remote Battery Kill Switch for Car, Truck, RV https://a.co/d/cHKuqxX

[roostere4]

Originally Posted by MakCamaro

Can you please let me know which product you installed? It shows multiple products on their website and I am a bit confused...

Not sure what website you are looking at, but this is the product I got:
https://www.iglausa.com/igla-anti-theft

Your installer will load the right firmware and setup.

Here is a nice video that shows some of the basic operation on a camaro.



Also here is what it looks like if you get the anti-carjacking option and someone were to steal your car