[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by NG329

Given the ZL1-1LE's weight, throwing in the heavier LT5 would probably upset the balance of the chassis even more. More is probably less in this regard.

More power isn't the issue. The car has 650hp. The Porsches have less and are sub 7 minutes. What the car needs is a weight reduction and maybe even a tad more downforce. Instead of 350lbs of downforce, perhaps 450lbs at 150mph. Think..... Viper ACR. Lighter and more downforce.

Correct, only so much you can do with a RWD platform. Mid engine has HUGE advantages here.

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by NG329

Given the ZL1-1LE's weight, throwing in the heavier LT5 would probably upset the balance of the chassis even more. More is probably less in this regard.

More power isn't the issue. The car has 650hp. The Porsches have less and are sub 7 minutes. What the car needs is a weight reduction and maybe even a tad more downforce. Instead of 350lbs of downforce, perhaps 450lbs at 150mph. Think..... Viper ACR. Lighter and more downforce.

Also with increased down force, usually you need the little extra horsepower to compensate for the rolling resistance

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

Also with increased down force, usually you need the little extra horsepower to compensate for the rolling resistance

There's a balance though, too much power and you can't get it down.

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

There's a balance though, too much power and you can't get it down.

Thank God these cars are tanks with tires and we can add the extra horsepower, i’m also thankful I got 20 pistons stopping my car

[Z06ZLE]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

Thank God these cars are tanks with tires and we can add the extra horsepower, i’m also thankful I got 20 pistons stopping my car

You know...you're right. I never actually stopped to add that up.

It's like telling a man they have 9 holes in their body.

It takes a moment.

[CalgaryZL1]

If I’m not mistaking, which I usually am according to my wife! The ZL1 has a slightly faster Top speed than the ZLE only because of the downforce from wing and planes. If anybody else would like to substitute for my wife and tell me I’m wrong I can live with it because I already have been for the last 25 years.

[george]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

If I’m not mistaking, which I usually am according to my wife! The ZL1 has a slightly faster Top speed than the ZLE only because of the downforce from wing and planes. If anybody else would like to substitute for my wife and tell me I’m wrong I can live with it because I already have been for the last 25 years.

At least you know your place after 25 years. I'm at 40 and still getting the third degree. I have read that the ZL1 has a higher top speed because of the aerodynamics. See article.

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-chevy-c...he-1le-package

"Chevy claims the standard Camaro ZL1 tops out at 202 mph, so you might think the 1LE could achieve a similar top speed. As it turns out, those aero parts come into play at high speed, severely limiting the 1LE's performance. The Johnny Bohmer Proving Grounds had access to a red 2019 ZL1 1LE (with a six-speed manual) to run down a 3.22-mile runway. 3.22 miles should be plenty to hit 200 mph but the 1LE was only able to achieve 178 mph. This is still an impressive top speed but is significantly off the pace of the standard ZL1."

[NG329]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

Also with increased down force, usually you need the little extra horsepower to compensate for the rolling resistance

Not necessarily. The Viper ACR makes 1,700lbs of peak downforce and had slightly less horsepower than the ZL1-1LE.

[NG329]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Correct, only so much you can do with a RWD platform. Mid engine has HUGE advantages here.

Fair play. It really does put the power down better. Albeit, at the expense of front end and braking feel.

[NG329]

Since we're on the subject, let's have a little bit of fun.

Here's the Z06 at NJMP Thunderbolt in stock trim. The guy is a fantastic driver (Probably better than me even) but the car was allllllll over the place seemingly ready to let go at any given moment.

Hot Lap starts at 4:53



In my oldie but goodie vid, I took a stock ZL1-1LE to an even faster time than the video above. My car was so composed I could've had a cup of coffee.

Hot Lap starts at 18:58



My video almost looks BORING by comparison. The ZL1-1LE for me is the platform that MOST folks will go faster in without being a highly skilled driver.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by NG329

Since we're on the subject, let's have a little bit of fun.

Here's the Z06 at NJMP Thunderbolt in stock trim. The guy is a fantastic driver (Probably better than me even) but the car was allllllll over the place seemingly ready to let go at any given moment.




In my oldie but goodie vid, I took a stock ZL1-1LE to an even faster time than the video above. My car was so composed I could've had a cup of coffee.




My video almost looks BORING by comparison. The ZL1-1LE for me is the platform that MOST folks will go faster in without being a highly skilled driver.

You realize of course that the ZL1 1LE won't match the C8 Z06 given equal conditions and drivers.

[NG329]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

You realize of course that the ZL1 1LE won't match the C8 Z06 given equal conditions and drivers.

On paper, the specs support that. Therefore, I agree. However, in the real world, it's unfortunately not that simple. From the videos above, Landis is a better driver than I am, but I am faster in the ZLE around the same course.

I'm of the belief that you really need to be at the upper echelon of Advanced group talent to extract the performance out of the new Z06. On the other hand, you can be a complete idiot and still go quickly in a ZLE.

In that first vid, I liken it to the game we used to play as kids at the dinner table. We'd balance on two legs of the chair at the dinner table and just as we were about to topple over backwards, we'd save it. From that video, driving the Z06 is very much like that. You need to be comfortable catching that front end as it threatens to break loose time after time after time again. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing about that video inspires confidence in the capabilities of that car.

In all fairness, the 1:30 he ran is NOT slow. That's at the faster end of A group here. I'm focusing on the skill required to keep that car in line.

[NG329]

A Pro in a stock Camaro

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by NG329

A Pro in a stock Camaro

An absolute clbuttic, Sir